Primo vs Test/Liquidex - Anabolic Steroids & Prohormones

RE: Primo vs Test/Liquidex

BacardiSlang — Wed, 20 Jul 2022 10:15:48 +0000

Originally posted by flexinnc

Different drugs give different people different side effects. That being said, I have used Primo twice and both times I lost a lot of hair.

Ouch!!
With Test, all you need to combat hair loss is a little Finasteride and Nizoral shampoo......spirolactone will help too.

RE: Primo vs Test/Liquidex

flexinnc — Wed, 20 Jul 2022 09:53:00 +0000

Originally posted by newtogear
Anyone able to answer my hairloss question?
Different drugs give different people different side effects. That being said, I have used Primo twice and both times I lost a lot of hair.

RE: Primo vs Test/Liquidex

newtogear — Wed, 20 Jul 2022 09:32:14 +0000

Mmmmmmmmmm....MD 20/20.

Anyone able to answer my hairloss question?

RE: Primo vs Test/Liquidex

BeatleJuice — Wed, 20 Jul 2022 09:15:20 +0000

Originally posted by Ironing
BJ,

Not everything is price related. I don't compare everything in life to a price ratio....I WILL agree that you are right from a price standpoint. You know if I am shopping for my dog I read the label and price shop getting the most for my money. However, when I am dealing with my body I buy what I want! It is like a fine wine compared to MD 20/20. Both will get you drunk and the price of one will hurt your wallet....but I enjoy the fine wine better.

Everyone has different and yet the same goals here on the board. We all want to get strong as hell and we lookin like a freak. However, for many people, gaining 30 lbs a cycle and then having to diet might not be the ideal situation. I am just glad there are alternatives that allow me to choose.

You know why you are saying this? Because, you just got your first Liquidex and have no idea what it is to bulk on Test, while using Liquidex.
My example: right now I'm using 2100mg/week of Test and 80mg/day of dbol as well as some Tren, which doesn't matter, because it doesn't aromatise.
Well, I use .3-.4ml of 4mg/ml Liquidex and I get no bloat, nothing, nada, zero!
Yes, gains are not the same as if I let it all aromatise, and start looking like Michelin man, but it's good, very good.
I used much lower dosege of Test with Liquidex for cutting before, and it kicks ass, much better then Primo.
I would like to hear your opinion after your cycle with Liquidex, bro. :)

RE: Primo vs Test/Liquidex

Ironing — Wed, 20 Jul 2022 08:53:02 +0000

BJ,

Not everything is price related. I don't compare everything in life to a price ratio....I WILL agree that you are right from a price standpoint. You know if I am shopping for my dog I read the label and price shop getting the most for my money. However, when I am dealing with my body I buy what I want! It is like a fine wine compared to MD 20/20. Both will get you drunk and the price of one will hurt your wallet....but I enjoy the fine wine better.

Everyone has different and yet the same goals here on the board. We all want to get strong as hell and we lookin like a freak. However, for many people, gaining 30 lbs a cycle and then having to diet might not be the ideal situation. I am just glad there are alternatives that allow me to choose.

RE: Primo vs Test/Liquidex

BacardiSlang — Wed, 20 Jul 2022 08:29:45 +0000

NOW THIS IS WHAT I CALL A QUALITY READ!!
This is what a discussion should look like.
Kudos to Ironing, Flex and Tadger for the quality info.

RE: Primo vs Test/Liquidex

BeatleJuice — Wed, 20 Jul 2022 08:13:43 +0000

It's not a question about being strong or weak, but effectiveness and usefulness.
It's a fact that Primo is much less androgenic and less anabolic then Test.
Yes, it doesn have JUST ONE adventage over Test, very little HPTA suppression, but at the dosages that won't promote practically any growth, unless you are begginer in lifting, or never lift before at all.
Dose of 200mg/week of Testosteron is used for Hormone Replacement Therapy, so what gains do you expect from 200-300mg/week of Primo? Anything above that will suppress HPTA as effectively as any other steroid.
I agree, it's nice for bridge, but for the price, it's better to get something more effective, well, practically anything.
Speaking of price....
And, what is this about clean human grade? How many brands of Test are clean, human grade, and not in pitifull 100mg/ml, but 250mg/ml? Too many to come up with number right away, and twice less expensive then "usefull tool"
Oh, well...

RE: Primo vs Test/Liquidex

Tadger — Wed, 20 Jul 2022 07:52:04 +0000

Just because primo isn't as strong as test doesn't make it useless. It's just one more tool we've got available to us. Primo is good clean human-grade gear... and when used appropriately it can be very effective.

RE: Primo vs Test/Liquidex

flexinnc — Wed, 20 Jul 2022 07:25:07 +0000

First of all let me say, I feel very strongly both ways. In truth, it depends on what your goals are and what you wish to accomplish. I have used both to good effect in the past.

Generally speaking I prefer test over any AAS. It is cheap, provides significant gains and the side effects are easily managed. I use test in every cycle that I do. On a cost benefit basis, it is cheaper to take a gram of test per week and 0.50 mg of arimidex per day, than use 1.5 mg of primo. In addition, the test will produce a greater increase in mass.

On the flDragon Pharma side, primo is a great drug for use in a bridge. At low doses, it will not supress natural test production and it will aid in the retention of mass like none of the other alternatives. Also, primo is the drug of choice for females. For them, a low dose of primo will give significant gains at a very reasonable price having few side effects.

One of my problems with using primo is the lack of high strength concentrations. If you want to use a gram of primo in a week, that means 10 CC's of oil weekly, just for the primo. If primo was available at 250 - 300 mg/ml, then it would be much more attractive for use.

My conclusion, if given the choice of using a human grade test or primo depot, I would definitely choose the test if I was bulking and probably if I was cutting. (In fact, I am cutting right now and am using 500 mg of test/wk in conjunction with winny & tren, and am not using primo.)

RE: Primo vs Test/Liquidex

Ironing — Wed, 20 Jul 2022 06:55:07 +0000

BJ,

I think we can all agree you are a TEST freak. Nothing wrong with that as TEST IS THE KING! However please remember that a professional never limits his tools chest to ONE TOOL. There are MANY benefits to using primo....no I have never used it....but I will not eliminate it just because it is not a POWER house drug like you seem to think all drugs should be. If one wants to acheive greatness all measures must be searched and used. I seperated the highlight and BENEFITS...yes BJ BENEFITS of primo for you. I would say the greatest being both a hard ripped look and very little effect on the NUTS! Use test and test only for the rest of your life...but me thing your nuts will just dither away. I for one like to know there are alternatives out there.

Primobolan Depot, although with a weaker effect than Deca-NPP, is a good basic steroid with a predominantly anabolic effect and, depending on the goal, can be effectively combined with almost any steroids. Those who would like to gain mass rapidly and do not have Deca available, can use Primo-Depot together with Sustanon 250 and Dianabol. Those who have more patience-or are afraid of potential side effects will usually be very satisfied with a stack of Primobolan Depot 200 mg/week and Deca-NPP 200-400 mg/week. We believe that the best combination is Primobolan Depot with Winstrol Depot. 200 - 400 mg/week is the normally used dosage of Primobolan Depot although there are enough athletes who inject a 100 mg ampule daily.

Primobolan Depot, like the oral acetate form, is not converted into estrogen, however, low water retention can occur, which is the reason why during preparations for a competition the injections are usually preferred.

Side effects with Primobolan Depot are minimal and manifest them-selves only rarely and in persons who are extremely sensitive.

Due to the androgenic residual effect, side effects include light acne, deep voice or increased hair growth. Primobolan Depot has even less in-fluence on the liver function than the oral form so that an increase of the liver's toxin values is extremely unlikely. The blood pressure, cholesterol level, HDL and LDL values, as with Primo tablets, usu-ally remain unaffected.

Primobolan Depot is generally the safest in-jectable steroid.

Athletes whose liver values strongly increase when taking anabolic steroids but who still do not want to give up their use, under periodical supervision of these values, can go ahead and try a stack of Primobolan Depot, Deca-NPP, and Andriol.

Primobolan Depot, like the tablets, has only a very small influence on the hypothalamohypophysial tes-ticular axis so that the body's own testosterone production is only reduced when very high dosages are taken over a prolonged period of time.

Women normally prefer the 25 mg tablets but there are several fe-male athletes who inject 100-200 mg or more Primobolan Depot/ week. 100 mg Primobolan Depot/week, combined with 50 mg Winstrol Depot/week, is usually an effective stack for many women and is tolerated well so that virilization symptoms are rarely ob-served. To avoid an undesired accumulation of androgens in the body women should pay attention that there are three to four days in between the relative injections. For competing female athletes this stack, however, is too weak. Primobolan Depot is often used in a dose of 100 mg/week to bridge over steroid breaks which, in our opinion, is not a good idea: The non-stop use of anabolic steroids has a strong negative influence on the body's own testosterone pro-duction and prevents the body from normalizing its functions. Dos-ages as low as 100 mg Primobolan Depot/week or 50 mg Deca-NPP/week (also often used for bridging) are non-toxic and mostly have no side effects. However, the effectiveness of such an intake must be strongly doubted since both compounds in this dos-age are much too weak in order to effectively counter affect the cata-bolic phase which begins in the steroid phases. Better results can usually be obtained with Clenbuterol without influencing the hor-mone system. Those who believe that in the "steroid free time" they must still take some "stuff " to bridge the usages should inject the long acting Testosterone enanthate (e.g. Testoviron Depot 250 mg/ ml) every two to three weeks.