What constitutes an "all natural" - General Training and Bodybuilding https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural Join our anabolic steroid forum for discussion about steroid sources, bodybuilding cycles, PCT, training and nutrition. Real user experiences and community advice. en-US Wed, 08 Apr 2026 01:56:57 +0000 wpForo 60 RE: What constitutes an "all natural" https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3238 Fri, 30 Jul 2021 16:34:51 +0000
Posted by: @Mitosis
After using drugs your HPTA is never the same....

So in theory, you are "less then natural" after drug use, so I guess once you pop, you will always be unnatural whether thats in a bad or good way.




Exactly.

]]> General Training and Bodybuilding SupplementKings https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3238 RE: What constitutes an "all natural" https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3237 Fri, 30 Jul 2021 16:04:22 +0000 After using drugs your HPTA is never the same....

So in theory, you are "less then natural" after drug use, so I guess once you pop, you will always be unnatural whether thats in a bad or good way.

]]> General Training and Bodybuilding Mitosis https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3237 RE: What constitutes an "all natural" https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3236 Fri, 30 Jul 2021 15:46:04 +0000 I think that natural means no use of body altering chemicals in levels beyond the body's normal limit.

For example: Using Testosterone to increasing building abilities. But not whey protein because the body has no normal level of protein. maybe?

I dunno just a thought. lol

]]> General Training and Bodybuilding Uechiryucrane https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3236 RE: What constitutes an "all natural" https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3235 Fri, 30 Jul 2021 15:21:35 +0000 Thats exactly right Ben, NPA is natural for life, BNBF natural for 10 years.

]]> General Training and Bodybuilding bran https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3235 RE: What constitutes an "all natural" https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3234 Fri, 30 Jul 2021 14:55:18 +0000 Not sure ben, could be... to be honest i haven't looked at the NPA.

-Layne

]]> General Training and Bodybuilding str8flexed https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3234 RE: What constitutes an "all natural" https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3233 Fri, 30 Jul 2021 14:32:45 +0000 Layne,

Correct me if im wrong...but here in the UK the NPA (Natural Physique Assosciation) has a lifetime natural requirement/ban if caught, though it's testing procedures are less than adequate IMO and need to be up to scratch with BNBF standard.

Ben

]]> General Training and Bodybuilding Ben_S https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3233 RE: What constitutes an "all natural" https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3232 Fri, 30 Jul 2021 14:05:32 +0000 the longest required drug free length in bodybuilding organizations is the BNBF (the amatuer version of the WNBF in britain) & they have a 10 year ban. Ideally it would be lifetime, but I understand that some people experiment when they are young and if they truly comit themselves to being natural the rest of their lives, they shouldn't be punished there entire life for it by not being allowed to compete.

-Layne

]]> General Training and Bodybuilding str8flexed https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3232 RE: What constitutes an "all natural" https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3231 Fri, 30 Jul 2021 13:35:16 +0000
Posted by: @Green Man
Just a thought,

I did a few courses of steroids about 10 years ago.  Nothing major, just some anavar & d-bol.  I'm needle-phobic son no injectibles.  Altogether I gained about 15 pounds of lean & probably kept about half of it.

Do I count as natural ?  I'd certainly pass a drug test, but it could be argued that some of the gains have remained & not everything on my body is the result of natural gains.

isn't there some type of time limit, i.e. "if you haven't juiced in the last 10 years" or something?

either way, that sure is open to interpretation

FWIW, my opinion is that if you have used an "anabolic", i.e. prohormone/steroids, GH, insulin, IGF, or any of the following fat loss items and/or their relations - synephrine, ephedrine, t3, clen, DNP, yohimbine...

then you aren't natural. the steroids/GH/IGF thing should be pretty much a lifetime thing. prohormones aren't nearly that strong, and the fat loss stuff...well....it's real easy to get fat, so if there is a time limit, i would think it would be shorter.

just my (worthless) $0.02

]]> General Training and Bodybuilding kethnaab https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3231 RE: What constitutes an "all natural" https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3230 Fri, 30 Jul 2021 13:09:46 +0000
Posted by: @Green Man
Just a thought,

I did a few courses of steroids about 10 years ago.  Nothing major, just some anavar & d-bol.  I'm needle-phobic son no injectibles.  Altogether I gained about 15 pounds of lean & probably kept about half of it.

Do I count as natural ?  I'd certainly pass a drug test, but it could be argued that some of the gains have remained & not everything on my body is the result of natural gains.

isn't there some type of time limit, i.e. "if you haven't juiced in the last 10 years" or something?

either way, that sure is open to interpretation

FWIW, my opinion is that if you have used an "anabolic", i.e. prohormone/steroids, GH, insulin, IGF, or any of the following fat loss items and/or their relations - synephrine, ephedrine, t3, clen, DNP, yohimbine...

then you aren't natural. the steroids/GH/IGF thing should be pretty much a lifetime thing. prohormones aren't nearly that strong, and the fat loss stuff...well....it's real easy to get fat, so if there is a time limit, i would think it would be shorter.

just my (worthless) $0.02

]]> General Training and Bodybuilding kethnaab https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3230 RE: What constitutes an "all natural" https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3229 Fri, 30 Jul 2021 12:50:43 +0000
Just a thought,

I did a few courses of steroids about 10 years ago. Nothing major, just some Anavar & Dbol'>D-bol. I'm needle-phobic son no injectibles. Altogether I gained about 15 pounds of lean & probably kept about half of it.

Do I count as natural ? I'd certainly pass a drug test, but it could be argued that some of the gains have remained & not everything on my body is the result of natural gains.

]]> General Training and Bodybuilding Green Man https://www.azsteroids.net/training/what-constitutes-an-all-natural/paged/3#post-3229