i love tren ace, but ED pinning gets old, and fast.
im on tren e/deca/eq right now so im getting plenty of estrogen, i just dont like test
psh not even..
tren is the bomb ass perfectly seasoned steak and test is the ketchup that you'll use to fuck up the bomb ass perfectly seasoned steak if you're a jackass like that
u mad?
dont know how u possibly feel good with no test.
so leave it look for something else that have tren in it.lol
Why are you waiting to get laid, I'm cuntfused....TREN IS GREAT THOUGH...LEVITRA IS BOSS...
personally, i can only speak for myself, and i always run test with tren, infact i run test with everything, its the foundation of all my cycles, and i never have problems, because the test keeps me at my best, !!!!
B
dont know how u possibly feel good with no test.
A lot of old school guys did primo and var nothing else.
of course they didnt always pct either...
Everyones different I guess
We all here YOU HAVE TO HAVE TEST..but how many of us have tried without it?
I did a tren extreme cycle with no test and was fine.
I imagine var and t-bol you would be gtg/...but not deca....and tren? Hmmm...
The beef cows dont use test with their tren pellets and gain pleanty of lean beef steak muscle (lol they dont pump iron either)
but who knows what madness fills their tren-soaked nightmares?
Me...I use test with any other inject but would like to try a primo or eq only some time just to see...because Im older than most of you guys...
But bet your ass ill have test prop and e on hand lol
LM1
I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree and say that test should definitely be the base for any cycle..using only tren will shutdown your natural testosterone production..having no test is no good, you will have zero sex drive and have a tough time getting and keeping a hard on, you will also have decreased energy levels and I've heard you just feel a general lack of drive and motivation when your test is forced so low..I don't know about you, but when I'm on a cycle one of my primary goals is to destroy as much vagina as possible while looking and feeling great..what's the point if your working with a limp noodle?, I would imagine this could also lead to a state of depression...you def didn't waste any money by purchasing test, if you are worried about water retention then try going with a short estered version such as test prop..this is just my opinion, id like to see what some of the other more experienced guys have to say..just a few questions about what you're planning on doing.. how many mgs of tren were you planning on doing per week and for how long? Also what type of test did you get?...take care bro
Bro Tren (I love it) can make me feel tired even with test if not using enough. But I wonder if you used hcg and maybe a lightweight like primo or eq for those of us that want a longer but light cycle?
Id probably just do 200mg test-e with my primo or eq just to be on the safe side though.
You have to remember that your test gets shut down because you are introducing exogenious androgens into your system so I imagin some injectable can be done with out test but with tren id def use some. Personally I like 750 test-e and 400mg tren-e amd 200mg mast-e for 10 weeks
or 350mg mast 350mg test-p, 350mg tren-ace for 5-6 weeks
But hey wtf...if this Bro is feeling fine with tren only why should we argue?
I do hope he has tried it both way though?
(no silly puns now boys)
Peace
LM1
Bro Tren (I love it) can make me feel tired even with test if not using enough. But I wonder if you used hcg and maybe a lightweight like primo or eq for those of us that want a longer but light cycle?
Id probably just do 200mg test-e with my primo or eq just to be on the safe side though.
You have to remember that your test gets shut down because you are introducing exogenious androgens into your system so I imagin some injectable can be done with out test but with tren id def use some. Personally I like 750 test-e and 400mg tren-e amd 200mg mast-e for 10 weeks
or 350mg mast 350mg test-p, 350mg tren-ace for 5-6 weeksBut hey wtf...if this Bro is feeling fine with tren only why should we argue?
I do hope he has tried it both way though?
(no silly puns now boys)Peace
LM1
you my friend are a very knowledgeable guy, i want to thank you for taking the time to help other guys, and actually remain on a serious note, with alot of time consuming research that you put alot of time into studying, then putting it down for all of us to read,
i hope you stick around over here for a long time to come, because your an asset over here my friend, thanks for your input my man,
nice work...
theboneman,
boneszzzzyyyy.....
SD is a madman, he can handle more tren than most of us.
A lot of old school guys did primo and var nothing else.
of course they didnt always pct either...
Everyones different I guess
We all here YOU HAVE TO HAVE TEST..but how many of us have tried without it?
I did a tren extreme cycle with no test and was fine.
I imagine var and t-bol you would be gtg/...but not deca....and tren? Hmmm...
The beef cows dont use test with their tren pellets and gain pleanty of lean beef steak muscle (lol they dont pump iron either)
but who knows what madness fills their tren-soaked nightmares?
Me...I use test with any other inject but would like to try a primo or eq only some time just to see...because Im older than most of you guys...
But bet your ass ill have test prop and e on hand lol
LM1
lol got good points. I did run 2 DS cycles with no test n flt like shit tho.