Intra-nasal pro hormones for women

If they're to be used short-term, moments of the occasion, then no Androgenic effects should they bring (just as they would not do so to males [same holds true for the Anabolic effects]).

A female (or a male, for that matter) should start off with 2 pumps so as to assess their response.

Your barking up the wrong tree. Women are better off elevating their androgen levels a moderate amount for extended peroids of time instead of looking for short increases in androgen level.
Use a thermogenic stimulant pre workout instead.

It's not for pre-workout purposes. Also, thermogenic stimulants are out of the question.

Females have used low-moderate dose 4-Diol (oral or dermal) with minimal incident, athough that's still a possibility. However the first notice could be sensitivity/tingling in the genitals, so that would be a warning (and unlike inject, use of oral, intranasal [and even transdermal] would allow for immediate cessation [without high levels of Androgen still being released for time after]).

Posted by: @Asmodean

It's not for pre-workout purposes.  Also, thermogenic stimulants are out of the question.

What do you mean by occasional use if not for pre-workout?

What is the problem with thermogenic stimulants?

Women do better on LONG cycles of a steroid (prohormone) with a high anabolic/androgenic ratio at a smaller dose. There are a few prohormones which fit the bill.

1.Nordione (medlean nor sport)
3.Nordiol (avant labs nor-aderm)
4.1,4 diol (vpx EQ)
5.1,4 dione (boldione molecular nutrition)
6.5-androstenedione
7.5-androstenediol (syntrax pentabol extreme)

I reccomend a half dose of transdermal Nor-Aderm taking the days off during and before the menstrual cycle to avoid and increase in FSH (mustache).

I should have said not ONLY for pre-workout purposes, she gets more of an increased concentration effect from the nasal than any kind of aggresion. She is intolerant to thermogenic stimulants (atleast ephedrine she is, and caffeine etc. really dont have much of an effect on her.) But her use of the product is very seldom, as she dosen't like to use any supplements at all really. Thus, she really isn't interested in any long term androgen, just something for the occasional "edge". I appreciate all of the information.

While on the subject, I have always wondered what kind of effects would androgens have on one who is on birth control? (either longer term cycles, or occasional one time uses?)

Posted by: @androshack

It's not for pre-workout purposes.  Also, thermogenic stimulants are out of the question.

What do you mean by occasional use if not for pre-workout?

What is the problem with thermogenic stimulants?

Women do better on LONG cycles of a steroid (prohormone) with a high anabolic/androgenic ratio at a smaller dose. There are a few prohormones which fit the bill.

1.Nordione (medlean nor sport)
3.Nordiol (avant labs nor-aderm)
4.1,4 diol (vpx EQ)
5.1,4 dione (boldione molecular nutrition)
6.5-androstenedione
7.5-androstenediol (syntrax pentabol extreme)

I reccomend a half dose of transdermal Nor-Aderm taking the days off during and before the menstrual cycle to avoid and increase in FSH (mustache).

Androshack, so what is a longer cycle? 12 weeks, 16, 20??? What kind of dosage, say 1/2 of what the bottle says? Curious as to specifics for my wife.

Intranasal is very, very interesting to me in this regard -- it would be more likely to masculinize the brain (which might not be such a bad thing) than the body (which is a bad thing if you are asking the question in the first place).

Posted by: @Par Deus

Intranasal is very, very interesting to me in this regard -- it would be more likely to masculinize the brain (which might not be such a bad thing) than the body (which is a bad thing if you are asking the question in the first place).

Well she tried your InRage and found it "useless" were her exact words. I use it regularly and find it great. She however has a bottle of Nor Andro spray, I posted more info on the supplement board....

Just curious if this is over kill or not. Since Androshack has enlightened me on the long cycle is better for women I was thinking 16 weeks 2 spray x 2 a day?

Posted by: @bpdaddy

It's not for pre-workout purposes.  Also, thermogenic stimulants are out of the question.

What do you mean by occasional use if not for pre-workout?

What is the problem with thermogenic stimulants?

Women do better on LONG cycles of a steroid (prohormone) with a high anabolic/androgenic ratio at a smaller dose. There are a few prohormones which fit the bill.

1.Nordione (medlean nor sport)
3.Nordiol (avant labs nor-aderm)
4.1,4 diol (vpx EQ)
5.1,4 dione (boldione molecular nutrition)
6.5-androstenedione
7.5-androstenediol (syntrax pentabol extreme)

I reccomend a half dose of transdermal Nor-Aderm taking the days off during and before the menstrual cycle to avoid and increase in FSH (mustache).

Androshack, so what is a longer cycle? 12 weeks, 16, 20??? What kind of dosage, say 1/2 of what the bottle says? Curious as to specifics for my wife.

A long cycle would be almost indefinately untill gains are no longer needed. Slow and steady with great pateince. 1/2 of the reccomended men's dose would be a good starting point. You can move dosage up or down depending on side effects or lack there of.

Posted by: @androshack

A long cycle would be almost indefinately untill gains are no longer needed. Slow and steady with great pateince. 1/2 of the reccomended men's dose would be a good starting point. You can move dosage up or down depending on side effects or lack there of.

Thanks, I'll keep ya posted!