Best for mass; high prop or high npp?

The only time I've had issues in the bedroom was coming off. So....now I'm on all the time. Talked my doc into writing me a script.

Posted by: @weightslayer

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The only time I've had issues in the bedroom was coming off. So....now I'm on all the time. Talked my doc into writing me a script.

I'm with you on this bro. A few more weeks my benefits kick in. And I'm gonna go see my dr. Would be nice to not worry about running out of test for HRT.

Well I ran 525mg Tren Ace with 125mg Test Cyp and no libido/wood issues there.

I;ll still go with high prop, starting in 2 weeks with;

700mg test prop EW
350mg NPP EW
100mg Var ED

Gonna try aromasin as AI for once instead of adex

Posted by: @nby

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Well I ran 525mg Tren Ace with 125mg Test Cyp and no libido/wood issues there.

I;ll still go with high prop, starting in 2 weeks with;

700mg test prop EW
350mg NPP EW
100mg Var ED

Gonna try aromasin as AI for once instead of adex

Been reading alot lately about people running tren higher than test. Does it help you cut better? Does it lower the sides? Do you run test lower just to avoid bloat?

my current cycle consist of;

Test Prop 150mg EOD
NPP 200mg EOD
Mast 100mg EOD
Winny 50mg ED

my sex drive is better than normal.

Posted by: @deja-vu

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Been reading alot lately about people running tren higher than test. Does it help you cut better? Does it lower the sides? Do you run test lower just to avoid bloat?

Combination actually. I had 0 sides, just the sweating but I sweat on pretty much every juice there is so tren is not to blame. Indeed less to no bloat, more room for the tren to work. Just a little test to keep the things running downstairs. I'd recommend it to anyone 🙂

Posted by: @superman

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my current cycle consist of;

Test Prop 150mg EOD
NPP 200mg EOD
Mast 100mg EOD
Winny 50mg ED

my sex drive is better than normal.

Nice, saw your pic, you're doing well on it! 😉

Better to keep test higher in all cases UNLESS you can take the sides.
NPP is weaker than test prop mg for mg so why not
Prop = 750mg ew split 2x
npp = 500 mg ew split 2x (even better 350mg tren ace)
var = 50mg ed

You do realize that these short esters are NOT classic bulking agents right?

You could substitute the npp for tren-ace at 350mgs ew.
Tren and var work well together for hard lean muscle

Duchain advocated using test,tren, t-bol for clean bulk
Deca is nice in many ways but it is prone to fat where tren is way more powerful and with a var combo can help burn fat while gaining lean

In fact...trens only legal use is ti increase LEAN mass in beef cattle.

BP
But if you want to use them the above dosage + proper clean high calorie high protein and middle quality whole grain carbs should put you there in as little as 8 weeks.

Gonna run a short clean bulk and have some test prop and npp lying around, might add some var. How would you run these two together? Prop higher than NPP or vice versa? I know the way to go with tren is low test high tren but unsure about NPP. Also a 19nor but the sides are nothing like tren sides...

So the question really is, which one will put on more (lean) mass? Go high on prop (~700) and low on npp (~350), perhaps 50/50 (~525/525) or low prop (~350) and high NPP (~700)? Cycle will be 6 to 8 weeks.

Posted by: @bostonpaul

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Better to keep test higher in all cases UNLESS you can take the sides.
NPP is weaker than test prop mg for mg so why not
Prop = 750mg ew split 2x
npp = 500 mg ew split 2x (even better 350mg tren ace)
var = 50mg ed

You do realize that these short esters are NOT classic bulking agents right?

You could substitute the npp for tren-ace at 350mgs ew.
Tren and var work well together for hard lean muscle

Duchain advocated using test,tren, t-bol for clean bulk
Deca is nice in many ways but it is prone to fat where tren is way more powerful and with a var combo can help burn fat while gaining lean

In fact...trens only legal use is ti increase LEAN mass in beef cattle.

BP
But if you want to use them the above dosage + proper clean high calorie high protein and middle quality whole grain carbs should put you there in as little as 8 weeks.

Gonna run a short clean bulk and have some test prop and npp lying around, might add some var. How would you run these two together? Prop higher than NPP or vice versa? I know the way to go with tren is low test high tren but unsure about NPP. Also a 19nor but the sides are nothing like tren sides...

So the question really is, which one will put on more (lean) mass? Go high on prop (~700) and low on npp (~350), perhaps 50/50 (~525/525) or low prop (~350) and high NPP (~700)? Cycle will be 6 to 8 weeks.

I think you mean enan or cyp for twice a week? Shooting prop 2x week isn't gonna do me much good!

And yeah I know they're not classic bulk agents but the diet makes the difference, not the gear! Also just want to go another 6-8 weeks before going PCT and taking the rest of the year off, if I take long esters I'll be on for another few weeks.

Just want to try out NPP and see how it is. Have just finished tren so looking into some other compounds 🙂