Fake Tren?

Sweating on cycle is not related to tren only as many think, but androgen level- so both test and tren cause it.

Sweating on cycle is not related to tren only as many think, but androgen level- so both test and tren cause it.

Yea I know that but I'm a lot hotter than I was on just test and never had this much trouble sleeping on test. Also, never had trouble breathing while on test. Really don't remember sweating in my sleep either on test.

Anybody have any advice on what dosing protocol I should follow though?

Sweating on cycle is not related to tren only as many think, but androgen level- so both test and tren cause it.
I'm not sure what the actual mechanism is, but 400mg tren certainly seems to do a lot worse than 400mg testosterone in terms of sides like this and sleeping. Test will cause it at much higher doses though.

Hey guys got a serious proposition here. Ok, pretty sure I'm getting the sides from tren ace. I've been experiencing them and they've been getting worse since I upped my test prop to 630mg/wk. So currently at test prop 630mg/wk and tren ace 350mg/wk.

On to the sides....I pretty well feel like shit lol my skin is on fire, can't sleep worth a damn, started sweating a good bit in my sleep last night in addition to shitty sleeping. I'm still short on breath but don't really have any anxiety now it seems. Slightly irritable but nothing bad. So maybe the tren is real? No real good sides yet. Be the two week mark tomorrow. Oh yea and sore as muscle, thanks a lot prop and tren! Been doing ED injects.

Question: You guys think I should just stay where I am at or up the tren to be at say 525mg tren and 630mg prop(this choice doesn't make much sense mind you). Or....lower the prop to 350mg and up tren to 525mg to feel more of the tren.(only problem there is that if the tren isn't good then I'll probably be pissed I dropped the prop.

What you guys think?

Judging by your sides, the tren is likely good.

Seeing as you're running both short esters, I'd give 350mg test and 525mg tren a try for a week or two and see how you feel by the end. Many people swear that lower test than tren dosages give them less side effects. I wouldn't at all up the tren without lowering the prop. 525 is quite the jump from 350, even if it doesn't seem like much. Either stay where you are, or modify the dosage as so^^

What are your gains like?

Judging by your sides, the tren is likely good.

Seeing as you're running both short esters, I'd give 350mg test and 525mg tren a try for a week or two and see how you feel by the end. Many people swear that lower test than tren dosages give them less side effects. I wouldn't at all up the tren without lowering the prop. 525 is quite the jump from 350, even if it doesn't seem like much. Either stay where you are, or modify the dosage as so^^

What are your gains like?

Thanks for the advice rainier, this is what I had planned to do, up my tren and lower test. Um haven't noticed a lot of gains at all really yet. Pumps are a little better but no real strength gains. I am cutting and on low calories so that may hinder my gains a little bit. Using this to cut. But again I'm not quite two weeks in so I'm still optimistic. :winkfinger: Hopefully see some positives soon!

Thanks for the advice rainier, this is what I had planned to do, up my tren and lower test. Um haven't noticed a lot of gains at all really yet. Pumps are a little better but no real strength gains. I am cutting and on low calories so that may hinder my gains a little bit. Using this to cut. But again I'm not quite two weeks in so I'm still optimistic. :winkfinger: Hopefully see some positives soon!
They'll come. Make sure to not cut too drastically (just slightly under your usual maintenance will be fine, remember AAS will drastically up your maintenance requirements anyway).
You should see visible changes soon. What's your protein macro and cal count at the moment?

They'll come. Make sure to not cut too drastically (just slightly under your usual maintenance will be fine, remember AAS will drastically up your maintenance requirements anyway).
You should see visible changes soon. What's your protein macro and cal count at the moment?

I try to eat really clean. Protein is usually around 200 or so and try to keep my calories at or under 2000. I seem to really hold onto weight. Not real worried about dropping too quickly. Never had that problem

bro so ur tren guess they're legit? i'm also brewing my own tren from powder and the powder got some kind of sour smells to it...

Yea mine smells kind of sour and has a yellow color to it.