military drug test

and if you have a lot of gear...like some many bros here...they may try add some intention to sell. Even if we know that that's my small personal use stash.

by the way...Thank's for this brother. Hooooaaaa!!!!!

Posted by: @djquirk

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They Only test for juice if there is probable cause and the action needed to make this test happen needs to be requested by your unit commander. They can't just pull you out o formation one day as say you're getting big so were going to test you for roids. The commander has to do paperwork to get it going and he's the only person that can do it. If your squad leader thinks he can just pull you aside and test your juice then you know he's an idiot. 1.
Probable cause. Getting bigger is not grounds for probable cause so any lawyer worth a shit could. Get you out of that even if you pissed hot. 2. Cost. Normal army drug tests cost about $8. Roid tests are about $250. So they don't just do them for the hell of it. The commander has to justify to his command the reason for the expenditure and his reasoning will be examined by JAG. "he just got bigger" won't fly as a reason to do the testing. These tests are usually only done when people are found in possession or are caught selling or something. Don't talk about it. Don't sell it. And don't act like a badass when you get bigger. Also the tests for roids require 60ml of urine. Twice the amount needed for a normal drug test. So if they're telling you that you must FILL the bottle then you know it's time to do some housekeeping after the test of you know you're going to come up hot. When they get back a positive for juice the first thing they'll do is have CID search your room so clean it out ASAP. Pissing hot is one thing, possession is another. Google: UPL Commanders handbook and AR 600-85.

No problem. I laughed my ass of when my unit assigned me as the person to conduct the drug screens. I got Togo to some very "informative" classes

Posted by: @djquirk

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They Only test for juice if there is probable cause and the action needed to make this test happen needs to be requested by your unit commander. They can't just pull you out o formation one day as say you're getting big so were going to test you for roids. The commander has to do paperwork to get it going and he's the only person that can do it. If your squad leader thinks he can just pull you aside and test your juice then you know he's an idiot. 1.
Probable cause. Getting bigger is not grounds for probable cause so any lawyer worth a shit could. Get you out of that even if you pissed hot. 2. Cost. Normal army drug tests cost about $8. Roid tests are about $250. So they don't just do them for the hell of it. The commander has to justify to his command the reason for the expenditure and his reasoning will be examined by JAG. "he just got bigger" won't fly as a reason to do the testing. These tests are usually only done when people are found in possession or are caught selling or something. Don't talk about it. Don't sell it. And don't act like a badass when you get bigger. Also the tests for roids require 60ml of urine. Twice the amount needed for a normal drug test. So if they're telling you that you must FILL the bottle then you know it's time to do some housekeeping after the test of you know you're going to come up hot. When they get back a positive for juice the first thing they'll do is have CID search your room so clean it out ASAP. Pissing hot is one thing, possession is another. Google: UPL Commanders handbook and AR 600-85.

Holy shit, this is great info. If we ever stickied info about drug tests, this would be in it.

This is quite a different approach to testing! Interesting to see they're finally looking at binding to the AR receptor instead of simple chemical identification. However, a weakness here they didn't seem to mention is that compared to the traditional method, this can't detect the metabolites of the steroid (which wouldn't bind to their receptor), so depending on how fast the steroid is metabolized (or when use was stopped, as it would only work if active steroids were still present), shit could get through. Obviously though, they'd be performing this test in combination with the traditional approaches such as T/E testing and testing for specific compounds/metabolites.

Great read! Someone been digging around on Pubmed?

these responses are music to my ears