Noob question

And before anyone says it, no, I didnt follow protocol, When and if some one advises my on my question I will the next time I go to the doc. Also, I was using Pars gear.....

Hey there DJ.
You picked the basics. Next time, I'd also suggest LH and FSH, they're very much related to your testosterone.
What in particular are you looking to find out? If your gear is real, health effects, general health?
Growth hormone is a nice one to get, but not necessary if you're just worried about your gear. RBC count and liver values would be useful if you're worried about health, etc.

Rainer, thank you. I wanted to find if the gear is real, and general health. Next time I'll throw in the other components you mentioned. Thanks for your input! I think I'm going to get a script for HGH so once that happens I'll get the growth hormone tested. And the liver values I want to check when I'm in the middle of a Dbol cycle.

Gotta follow protocol if u want to test gear quality just a heads up for next time

Posted by: @djquirk

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Rainer, thank you. I wanted to find if the gear is real, and general health. Next time I'll throw in the other components you mentioned. Thanks for your input! I think I'm going to get a script for HGH so once that happens I'll get the growth hormone tested. And the liver values I want to check when I'm in the middle of a Dbol cycle.

If you can get a script for HGH, I suggest you get one for test also. You don't *need* to buy your test from the pharmacy if you have a script anyway.

If you're getting your GH from the pharmacy, don't worry about testing it. It'll be good.

To find out if the gear is real, you need to look up the ester of Testosterone you're using and how long it takes to reach proper blood concentration. Then get your test done then. Or you could use the testing protocol we have stickied, then and you could compare it to all the others tested with the same protocol (there's tons on the IM forums).

Or if you've already taken the test, and your results come back off the charts, you know it's real 😀

I can get a test script here but it's crazy fucking expensive. It's actually cheaper to order it from a UGL in the states and have it shipped over here. Over here it only comes in ampules of test e 250. A box of 5 is $100. No thanks

I have yet to look into the HGH though. That's next. The HCG is super cheap as I found out. 10 vials at 5000 iu each cost me a total of $30.

Posted by: @djquirk

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I can get a test script here but it's crazy fucking expensive. It's actually cheaper to order it from a UGL in the states and have it shipped over here. Over here it only comes in ampules of test e 250. A box of 5 is $100. No thanks

The ideal combination is to have a legal script (I mean the prescription, the piece of paper that your doc writes you that lets you buy from a legit pharmacy), but do your purchasing off a UGL online. The only purpose of the script is so you're legally entitled to be in possession of test, if it's illegal or a controlled substance in your country. Seeing as you can get an HGH script, a test script from the same doc should be no problem at all and just another thing for him to write up for you. It's for your own safety and a good thing to have. Just my 2c.

The results are back. Can anyone make sense of this?

ok, so the attachment didnt work let try that again

400 Here we go

GOOD advice ,,, now say something 🤣 funny

Posted by: @rainier

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If you can get a script for HGH, I suggest you get one for test also. You don't *need* to buy your test from the pharmacy if you have a script anyway.

If you're getting your GH from the pharmacy, don't worry about testing it. It'll be good.

To find out if the gear is real, you need to look up the ester of Testosterone you're using and how long it takes to reach proper blood concentration. Then get your test done then. Or you could use the testing protocol we have stickied, then and you could compare it to all the others tested with the same protocol (there's tons on the IM forums).

Or if you've already taken the test, and your results come back off the charts, you know it's real

Posted by: @djquirk

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400 Here we go

You've got the estrogen levels of a teenage girl, if it's the units I'm thinking of (pmol/L)! You'll have a pair of C-cups if you don't do something about it!

I exaggerate, but you should get an AI (such as aromasin or arimidex) to help control your estrogen levels.

Your levels are significantly higher than the range for testosterone! They don't test levels that high, you cleared the chart, which is a sign that you're using something with gear in it. Interesting to see their cutoff wherever you are (is that China, Taiwan, HK?) is the same as Labcorp in the USA (so you could end up using the protocol we have, coincidentally, if you want to know if your gear is underdosed or overdosed in the future). At the moment, it's clear that there's some form of gear in there though.

Your HDL cholesterol is very low. This is the good kind of cholesterol. This is normal for when you're on gear. If you're concerned, reduce your intake of fatty meat and increase your intake of oily fish and omega-3s.

Any other questions?

What's the middle column for btw?

Posted by: @rainier

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You've got the estrogen levels of a teenage girl, if it's the units I'm thinking of (pmol/L)! You'll have a pair of C-cups if you don't do something about it!

I exaggerate, but you should get an AI (such as aromasin or arimidex) to help control your estrogen levels.

Your levels are significantly higher than the range for testosterone! They don't test levels that high, you cleared the chart, which is a sign that you're using something with gear in it. Interesting to see their cutoff wherever you are (is that China, Taiwan, HK?) is the same as Labcorp in the USA (so you could end up using the protocol we have, coincidentally, if you want to know if your gear is underdosed or overdosed in the future). At the moment, it's clear that there's some form of gear in there though.

Your HDL cholesterol is very low. This is the good kind of cholesterol. This is normal for when you're on gear. If you're concerned, reduce your intake of fatty meat and increase your intake of oily fish and omega-3s.

Any other questions?

What's the middle column for btw?

Thanks for the input. I'm not sure what the middle column is for. There's not much of a bodybuilding community here at all. The doc suggested I lower my test levels. Yeah right! I'll get right on that. I wish the test didn't cutoff the test level at a certain number. This test was taken a few day after a 4ml (1 gram) shot of pars test e 250. A dose I've been on for awhile. So with estrogen that high for the length of time I've been doing it I would say I'm not prone to gyno. Not impervious of course but not very sensitive to it. I will get on the AI right away. I was thinking of using Purity Solutions stuff.Any experience with them? Thanks for all your input. It really is appreciated!