Second Cycle

Others may say different but IMO I wouldn't run tren on ur 2nd cycle, especially tren enanthate. if and when u do, run ace first. I wouldn't see a problem with run'n tbol, but just adding an oral like that or dbol, maybe some deca too, would be a good 2nd...

General rule of thump is: "No tren shall be given to those who havent done minimum 4 cycles"

Tren is most harshest, most strongest injectable avilable. You have to have solid knownledge on side effects, because its 19 nor. Arimidex, Aromasin, and letrozol wont do ANYTHING against tren gyno, and Nolvadex will make gyno worse. To make things worse, you were trying to go with tren-E. Tren-e is longer estered than tren ace, and you will have hard time stopping sides. Tren ace goes and out quick.

You need prolactin inhibitors like caber and prami, if your were to use one regardless of our recommandation.

Heres my recommandation

Week 1~12 Test-e @ 500mg/week
Week 1~4 Dbol @ 30~40mg ed

Week 14~18 PCT

You will gain about 20 pounds with solid diet with this cycle and add about 50 pounds on your overal lift. The key here is to start small.

I'm going on my fourth cycle now and still haven't thought about adding tren ace

Would take me months of research and preparation to dabble with tren

Thanks for all this advice. Ill definitely take the recommendations. The dbol is 25mg...should i stick with the 25 ed or go to 50 ed? Seems like it may be better to wait until week 2 to start dbol to give test time to kick in. Is that logical? As far as PCT...i was thinking nolva and clomid. Is that enough?

Once again, thanks for the advice. I dont have anyone to help me with this where Im from. I do have a friend who is on this forum as well that I know personally, he knows his stuff as well, but I like other opinions.

Oh, and on a side note...id like to drop bf% as well 🙂 is it possible to have it all?

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Thanks for all this advice. Ill definitely take the recommendations. The dbol is 25mg...should i stick with the 25 ed or go to 50 ed? Seems like it may be better to wait until week 2 to start dbol to give test time to kick in. Is that logical? As far as PCT...i was thinking nolva and clomid. Is that enough?

Once again, thanks for the advice. I dont have anyone to help me with this where Im from. I do have a friend who is on this forum as well that I know personally, he knows his stuff as well, but I like other opinions.

Oh, and on a side note...id like to drop bf% as well 🙂 is it possible to have it all?

I would start dbol week 1 25 mg a day to see your tolerance

Test takes 5-6 weeks to get into high concentration if its a long ester

Nolva and clomid is a minimal PCT

I'd add in maybe a peptide like ostarine or OSTA RX a aromatose inhibitor maybe like aromasin and maybe a test booster like DAA

And lots of food for PCT

Where can i get this stuff? I found aromasin...what about this other?

Whats your stats bro, no disrespect but you sound young to me and we don't know you so - Age, Weight, height, bf% cycle history, if you got good gains from test and at a TRT dose then I would stick to test only. Tren is no joke and the sides from it are the worst out of all AAS IMO... lets hear those stats.

Posted by: @heathalot

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Where can i get this stuff? I found aromasin...what about this other?

don't ask Q's like this here! go to source checking

I don't think your ready for tren.stick with a d/ bol test e cycle maybe add deca or eq.
Do your research before you put anything in your body.

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im 28 years old with three bachelors degrees in math, physics, and political science (im not stupid). im 5'7, 172 lbs, 10%bf. I just have no idea about all this stuff. I know what I hear from folks, and the internet, but I dont know what is BS or not. Thats why Im here. Id like to get to about 200 lbs lean. The one cycle i did of TE250 was great but I know I can handle more. Im hoping that I can get good advice here. Like I said before, there is none around these parts.

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im 28 years old with three bachelors degrees in math, physics, and political science (im not stupid). im 5'7, 172 lbs, 10%bf. I just have no idea about all this stuff. I know what I hear from folks, and the internet, but I dont know what is BS or not. Thats why Im here. Id like to get to about 200 lbs lean. The one cycle i did of TE250 was great but I know I can handle more. Im hoping that I can get good advice here. Like I said before, there is none around these parts.

Ok heathalot, I was wrong but I like to make sure Im not giving AAS advice to a kid as in 17 to 20 yo's any way your goals sound good and I would not mess with any 19 nor's yet (Tren,Deca,NPP) just up the dose Test E at 500to 750 a week for 12 weeks Kick it off with D bol at 50mg a day for the first 4-5 weeks and aromasin 12.5- 25mg a day and clomid and aromasin for PCT

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Ok heathalot, I was wrong but I like to make sure Im not giving AAS advice to a kid as in 17 to 20 yo's any way your goals sound good and I would not mess with any 19 nor's yet (Tren,Deca,NPP) just up the dose Test E at 500to 750 a week for 12 weeks Kick it off with D bol at 50mg a day for the first 4-5 weeks and aromasin 12.5- 25mg a day and clomid and aromasin for PCT

Now thats advice I can use. Quick and to the point. Wasnt trying to be a dick I just wanted you to know that Im an intelligent person capable of doing this with the right advice. Thanks bro!

no problem bro, check out our site and our prods everything you need is there, and keep us posted how every thing go's