Winter cycle ??

Goals are 8lbs said n done, leaner, and add as much to my lifts as possible.

I have caber all set. Its bd primo. I love masteron, muscles are rock hard and veins everywhere. So def wanted to try primo. I have a script for a sleep aid. Thats my only concern with tren. I get real crabby if i cant 5-6 hours of sleep. I think ill try a few weeks on.ace, if all is good then run enanthate.
I'm just the same with sleep/getting pissed off. Which sleep aid are you using?

Ambien. I might ask for ambien cr next time. For myself, it works well. I just try not to use often and get dependent on it.

You need to save the primo, tren and primo are very similar except tren has harsher and a higher risk for sides. Whats your plan for pct? A reminder... be careful with the caber.. sometimes the side effects or how it effects you can be harsh too.

You need to save the primo, tren and primo are very similar except tren has harsher and a higher risk for sides. Whats your plan for pct? A reminder... be careful with the caber.. sometimes the side effects or how it effects you can be harsh too.

If you already have primo, why not run it with tren? Ive searched and found a few that have and one site that shows a tren/test/primo cycle. Its going to a pricey cycle, but I only can run two a year, so wgaf.

Obviously if I have caber on hand (used it before on my npp cycle) and I am going to run hcg, I might just have the pct thing under control. The plan is clomid/aromasin/ and daa. Bulk daa is cheap as fuk, so I always add it during pct. Ill get bloodwork done a month after pct like usual.

GMO ran this cycle and he said it was his best cycle ever, so I am def leaning towards 750 test e (frontloaded)/350 tren ace (50mg ed)/500mg primo.

I might drop the test down to say 400-500, but Ill feel out how this goes. Ill be a sweating and raging fool, but getting ripped 😀

week 1 to 6-250 test E
week 7-500 test E
week 8 750 test E
week 9 750 test E
week 10 1000 test e
week 11 1000 test e
week 12 1250 test E
week 9-13 400 mgs tren

thoughts?

this is based off of heavyiron's sticky thread, not using dbol, it gives me too many lower back issues (pumps)

Ive read some of Heavy's comments on pyramid cycles, believe he's ran a good amount of this type cycle(like 20 could be wrong on that #) but seem very interesting and obviously the thought is beating the plateau effect of a constant dosed cycle. The first 6 wks at 250mgs seems very low tho Wizard. The tren at the end I like bro! Would be great finish to the cycle IMO. The only change I'd make myself (never ran a pyramid) is starting at 500mgs and then begin increasing the amounts. Consider an AI like aromasin during pct also bro. Recognize you from IM glad to see you here bro. Maybe start another thread here bro, there's none posted regarding pyramids 🙂

If you already have primo, why not run it with tren? Ive searched and found a few that have and one site that shows a tren/test/primo cycle. Its going to a pricey cycle, but I only can run two a year, so wgaf.

Obviously if I have caber on hand (used it before on my npp cycle) and I am going to run hcg, I might just have the pct thing under control. The plan is clomid/aromasin/ and daa. Bulk daa is cheap as fuk, so I always add it during pct. Ill get bloodwork done a month after pct like usual.

GMO ran this cycle and he said it was his best cycle ever, so I am def leaning towards 750 test e (frontloaded)/350 tren ace (50mg ed)/500mg primo.

I might drop the test down to say 400-500, but Ill feel out how this goes. Ill be a sweating and raging fool, but getting ripped 😀

Like I said earlier I think this is a solid cycle bro and go with it.

I maybe speaking out of context here for death dodger but I'd say he's thought are with the similar characteristics primo would be a waste with the tren.

Ive read some of Heavy's comments on pyramid cycles, believe he's ran a good amount of this type cycle(like 20 could be wrong on that #) but seem very interesting and obviously the thought is beating the plateau effect of a constant dosed cycle. The first 6 wks at 250mgs seems very low tho Wizard. The tren at the end I like bro! Would be great finish to the cycle IMO. The only change I'd make myself (never ran a pyramid) is starting at 500mgs and then begin increasing the amounts. Consider an AI like aromasin during pct also bro. Recognize you from IM glad to see you here bro. Maybe start another thread here bro, there's none posted regarding pyramids 🙂

I will be running the test at 500. have received this suggestions from others as well.

Thanks for the help.

My favorite winter cycle is 1000mg-1500mg sust, 600mg-800mg deca per week for about 12 weeks along with 50mg dbol per day for the 1st 6 weeks.