Winter cycle ??

Run the tren longer and it'll be the best cycle you've ever ran (although it is a lot heavier than your previous ones).
That's a lot of primo though, I'd chop the dose in half and run it twice as long, you really need 5 weeks for it to start kicking in.

I agree with with Rainier I'd plan to run that there tren ( ace since first time) a few more weeks.. I'd drop the dbol as that tren will kick in quickly, and I'd also drop the primo or get more. 6 wks at 500mgs you not gonna get what you should bro.
Maybe throw in that var.

I have enough primo to run 500mg for ten weeks. Wasnt sure if i should stack it with tren or not. Ill get enough tren for ten weeks n see how long i can hang. So skip a kicker and get test for 12 , tren for at least five maybe 8 weeks and primo for ten?

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I have enough primo to run 500mg for ten weeks. Wasnt sure if i should stack it with tren or not. Ill get enough tren for ten weeks n see how long i can hang. So skip a kicker and get test for 12 , tren for at least five maybe 8 weeks and primo for ten?

🙂 that sounds great bro. 10 wks on the primo, 12 with the test, and as long as you can ride that tren train.

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I have enough primo to run 500mg for ten weeks. Wasnt sure if i should stack it with tren or not. Ill get enough tren for ten weeks n see how long i can hang. So skip a kicker and get test for 12 , tren for at least five maybe 8 weeks and primo for ten?

That also sounds great.

Test at 750mg for 12 weeks
Tren at 400mg for 8 weeks
Primo at 500mg for 10 weeks

Sounds good. You might be able to drop the test dose down lower, this cycle is a lot heavier than your previous ones and you're gonna grow like crazy. It's tren.

This might sound slightly reckless: but you could try running TrenE and frontloading TrenA for the first 4-5 weeks. You should know by week 2-3 of the ace if you can handle tren sides, and you can decide whether you're going to continue running it. If you're ok with tren ace, you'll be set when the tren E really hits in 2 weeks and you drop the tren ace. If not (and you're thinking of dropping the tren A), you can drop both altogether, and the tren E won't properly kick in. Only do this if you're good at gauging your own reactions and tolerance, and pay attention to how you really feel on tren the first few weeks. Have your caber on hand too. Again, this is only if you can do the above with sides and this is a slightly "reckless" option, but you can minimize the damage if you drop the trenE the fourth week.

I'd be interested to find out which primo you're using and what kind of results you get, I find it a very interesting compound. Just remember that primo must be run over 6 weeks, it really takes 4-5 weeks (as with any enanthate ester) to build up proper levels and kick in.

What are your cycle goals by the way

I have caber all set. Its bd primo. I love masteron, muscles are rock hard and veins everywhere. So def wanted to try primo. I have a script for a sleep aid. Thats my only concern with tren. I get real crabby if i cant 5-6 hours of sleep. I think ill try a few weeks on.ace, if all is good then run enanthate.

Goals are 8lbs said n done, leaner, and add as much to my lifts as possible.

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Goals are 8lbs said n done, leaner, and add as much to my lifts as possible.

if you get good quality tren, all of your dreams will come true...

hahaha the stuff is like magic man!

im sure youll be looking great by the end of this cycle!

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I have caber all set. Its bd primo. I love masteron, muscles are rock hard and veins everywhere. So def wanted to try primo. I have a script for a sleep aid. Thats my only concern with tren. I get real crabby if i cant 5-6 hours of sleep. I think ill try a few weeks on.ace, if all is good then run enanthate.

I'm just the same with sleep/getting pissed off. Which sleep aid are you using?

Ambien. I might ask for ambien cr next time. For myself, it works well. I just try not to use often and get dependent on it.

You need to save the primo, tren and primo are very similar except tren has harsher and a higher risk for sides. Whats your plan for pct? A reminder... be careful with the caber.. sometimes the side effects or how it effects you can be harsh too.

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You need to save the primo, tren and primo are very similar except tren has harsher and a higher risk for sides. Whats your plan for pct? A reminder... be careful with the caber.. sometimes the side effects or how it effects you can be harsh too.

If you already have primo, why not run it with tren? Ive searched and found a few that have and one site that shows a tren/test/primo cycle. Its going to a pricey cycle, but I only can run two a year, so wgaf.

Obviously if I have caber on hand (used it before on my npp cycle) and I am going to run hcg, I might just have the pct thing under control. The plan is clomid/aromasin/ and daa. Bulk daa is cheap as fuk, so I always add it during pct. Ill get bloodwork done a month after pct like usual.

GMO ran this cycle and he said it was his best cycle ever, so I am def leaning towards 750 test e (frontloaded)/350 tren ace (50mg ed)/500mg primo.

I might drop the test down to say 400-500, but Ill feel out how this goes. Ill be a sweating and raging fool, but getting ripped 😀

week 1 to 6-250 test E
week 7-500 test E
week 8 750 test E
week 9 750 test E
week 10 1000 test e
week 11 1000 test e
week 12 1250 test E
week 9-13 400 mgs tren

thoughts?

this is based off of heavyiron's sticky thread, not using dbol, it gives me too many lower back issues (pumps)

Ive read some of Heavy's comments on pyramid cycles, believe he's ran a good amount of this type cycle(like 20 could be wrong on that #) but seem very interesting and obviously the thought is beating the plateau effect of a constant dosed cycle. The first 6 wks at 250mgs seems very low tho Wizard. The tren at the end I like bro! Would be great finish to the cycle IMO. The only change I'd make myself (never ran a pyramid) is starting at 500mgs and then begin increasing the amounts. Consider an AI like aromasin during pct also bro. Recognize you from IM glad to see you here bro. Maybe start another thread here bro, there's none posted regarding pyramids 🙂

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If you already have primo, why not run it with tren? Ive searched and found a few that have and one site that shows a tren/test/primo cycle. Its going to a pricey cycle, but I only can run two a year, so wgaf.

Obviously if I have caber on hand (used it before on my npp cycle) and I am going to run hcg, I might just have the pct thing under control. The plan is clomid/aromasin/ and daa. Bulk daa is cheap as fuk, so I always add it during pct. Ill get bloodwork done a month after pct like usual.

GMO ran this cycle and he said it was his best cycle ever, so I am def leaning towards 750 test e (frontloaded)/350 tren ace (50mg ed)/500mg primo.

I might drop the test down to say 400-500, but Ill feel out how this goes. Ill be a sweating and raging fool, but getting ripped

Like I said earlier I think this is a solid cycle bro and go with it.

I maybe speaking out of context here for death dodger but I'd say he's thought are with the similar characteristics primo would be a waste with the tren.