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TheWon
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I'm about to try trib and maybe ZMA too for the first time. I'm just curious if its one of those situations where any brand is okay or if there is actaully differences in the different manufacturers. Thoughts?

Also, I just read a post by P.S. stating that 3 grams of trib per day is a good base...I'm 29, would that be good for me too or does it depend on age?

Thanks!


   
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TheWon
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Hey, where's the love?


   
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Brand makes a difference!
I've tried many different Trib brands. Tribestan is by far my favorite.
Look at the side of the package. You want Bulgarian Tribulus Terrestris, with the bulk of the Tribulus from saponins. (the active part of the plant containing the Testosterone increasing properties). The whole plant isn't useful, so see how much % if from saponins.

ZMA is zinc, magensium, and vitamin b6.
The ratio you want to look for is:
Zinc: 30mg
Magnesium (aspartate): 450mg
Vitamin B6: 10.5mg

Personally I just buy the Zinc & Magnesium separate for a few dollars. Haven't noticed any difference to be honest.


   
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At 29 you may not need trib unless it's in conjuction with an AAS cycle, but as far as using it for ED/HRT etc at your age you should not have any issues with that yet.


   
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TheWon
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At 29 you may not need trib unless it's in conjuction with an AAS cycle, but as far as using it for ED/HRT etc at your age you should not have any issues with that yet.

I was thinking more along the lines of helping when coming off a long cycle. I just finished up a 20 weeker (my longest ever) in August and could have used it then...although I'm back to normal now.

Honestly, I'm considering just taking it for fun too. You know, like taking a viagra every so often just for the hell of it. I'm okay without it but better with it, you know?

So when using it for a cycle you want to be on it the whole time, not just start it when you're finishing up, right? In that case for my age I guess I'll just try 1.5 G per day since that seemed to work for NC (referenced from another post) and if I remember correctly he and I are about the same age and size. I'll just start taking that dose and see how it goes. No disadvantage or side effects fro m1.5 ED, right?


   
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Damn at 1.5 G per day I'd be spending over $70 a month on trib if I get Tribestan from dps nutrition! On the other hand if I went with Ultimate Nutrition's brand it would come out to $8.33. Your thoughts? Are there any other good brands that are cheaper or tell me where you guys get yours.

I'm also not seeing the % from saponins on the supplement facts labels that they post on that site. 🙁

The best site to check nutritional info for supplements imo is bodybuilding.com. Tribestan is expensive for a reason, but I also don't need as much of it to get the same benefits.

Ultimate Nutrition Trib is OKAY at best. (I tried it twice now...) However, I've tried worse (such as NOW brand trib.)

Biotest Tribex Gold is good stuff. SciFit T-500 Extreme is very good too. Optimum Trib 625 is pretty good too.


   
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BS Nutrition
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TheWon, whats up bro. I am taking Controlled labs Blue up at 2200mg a day. I am taking ISS ZMA before bed, 1 serving. I also wanted to try this, I mean Im not looking for a miracle. Ive been taking it for just less than a week, and noticed minimal changes. The trib only helps raise your natural test to its capacity. I forgot to mention I'm 26. I feel like I get more "excited" easier, and I sleep super hard. Dreams have gotten pretty weird. I am only taking those two, ON 100% protein shake, ABB XXL extreme RTD, and multivit. I feel pretty good though.


   
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i have taken trib for months but i'm not sure it is working well for me. I dont get the dreams like everyone talks about. I do get sick to my stomach but that the only side I seem to get


   
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WON and anyone who is looking to use trib for PCT. Trib works best if you run it throughout the cycle and well past PCT. Remember it is an herb and as such it does take quite some time to effectively build up in your system.

Lastly like I have said before using trib while you're in your 20s is not going to give you the same "boost" as someone who is either older or has test issues (either naturally or AAS induced), so if your 20ish and have no test issues, and are not "on" then I would suggest many other supplements long before adding trib into the mix.


   
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Lastly like I have said before using trib while you're in your 20s is not going to give you the same "boost" as someone who is either older or has test issues (either naturally or AAS induced), so if your 20ish and have no test issues, and are not "on" then I would suggest many other supplements long before adding trib into the mix.

Really? I'm in my 20's, no testosterone issues (as verified by my doc), and Tribulus still gives me a HUGE boost. So much so that it's almost addictive...


   
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BS Nutrition
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i have taken trib for months but i'm not sure it is working well for me. I dont get the dreams like everyone talks about. I do get sick to my stomach but that the only side I seem to get

THe ZMA is wht get the dreams crankin, not the trib. For me the trib only helps to pitch a tent easier.


   
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I ge my trib from netrition.com
their "NOW" brand is cheap, and seems to work for me.
I layed off it for months, then my nuts got small on a cycle, I took the trib and their back!


   
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