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for da women out there. what is the highest mcg of clen you would suggest for a woman who has never used clen before. What should she taper up to?

What have you personally done ? and what wopuld you suggest for a first time female?

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i have personaly put my wife on ip's superclen, she just broke it down into 4 equal pieces. i have personaly seen women take it full strength, i think it has to do with your tolerance to stimulants and how well you can tolerate them, if you take it i would definatly reccomend it with some type of eca stack, to really get cut up. also it is not a magic pill you will need to do cardio daily as well as have a clean diet. i have stacked it with winny and gained about 7 pds of muscle and lost about 14 pds. of fat in 4 weeks.


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she's 29 and has been lifting for a couple of years naturally. She is looking to supplement her current routine with a short clen cycle. 14 on tappering up and down then 14 on ECA. She's approx 130lbs, i couldn't even give you a BF% i personally have tappered up to 125mcg+ but i am sure that will be to much for her. I have also spoke with her about the negitives but she is dead set on using clen. So i was looking for a bracket of mcg's for her to work in.


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she's 29 and has been lifting for a couple of years naturally. She is looking to supplement her current routine with a short clen cycle. 14 on tappering up and down then 14 on ECA. She's approx 130lbs, i couldn't even give you a BF% i personally have tappered up to 125mcg+ but i am sure that will be to much for her. I have also spoke with her about the negitives but she is dead set on using clen. So i was looking for a bracket of mcg's for her to work in.

how tall is she? unless she's a midget, she can't be that overweight @ 130lbs...

25micrograms a day, two days on, two days off....on the two days off, use an ECA stack....DO NOT go higher than 50micrograms a day....150micrograms is INSANE, even for a guy!!!!!

the two day on/off works great for clen as you can run it longer without your body adapting to it (which it will do quickly)

i don't understand the need to use clen. an ECA stack is MUCH MORE effective, coupled with a good diet/training program she will lose weight much more effeciently than with clen....

anyways, hope that helps a little
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That is exactly what i was looking for. and i agree with you on the ECA being better then clen but some people just won't listen, so i just don't want her to hurt herself.


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So, if the half-life of clen is aprox 36 hours (1.5 days) and you take two days on and two days off, you are still taking clen the whole time. Try two weeks on and two weeks off since clen seems to stop working just after two weeks anyway.


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So, if the half-life of clen is aprox 36 hours (1.5 days) and you take two days on and two days off, you are still taking clen the whole time. Try two weeks on and two weeks off since clen seems to stop working just after two weeks anyway.

i have always found clen works better 2 days on/off...i think you might be a little off on your half-life, i believe it's alot shorter than that...

each method works differently for each individual, i find that on my method i can run clen for longer periods of time as opposed to two week on/off.....but as i also mentioned before, i don't feel it's a good fat burner anyways, only targeting one receptor site and a high adaption rate, as opposed to Ephedrine that hits many receptor sites (alpha and beta) and tests have shown, long use of this product allows better results....

and there's no "jitters" 😀

whatever floats your boat;)


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So, if the half-life of clen is aprox 36 hours (1.5 days) and you take two days on and two days off, you are still taking clen the whole time. Try two weeks on and two weeks off since clen seems to stop working just after two weeks anyway.

i have always found clen works better 2 days on/off...i think you might be a little off on your half-life, i believe it's alot shorter than that...

each method works differently for each individual, i find that on my method i can run clen for longer periods of time as opposed to two week on/off.....but as i also mentioned before, i don't feel it's a good fat burner anyways, only targeting one receptor site and a high adaption rate, as opposed to Ephedrine that hits many receptor sites (alpha and beta) and tests have shown, long use of this product allows better results....

and there's no "jitters" 😀

whatever floats your boat;)


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Just checked and it's 36 hours for the clen half-life. Perhaps the no jitters part is when you pass the 2-3 week period and it stops working. Since clen lowers the conversion of t4 to t3 you might add that to a two week cycle.


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Just checked and it's 36 hours for the clen half-life. Perhaps the no jitters part is when you pass the 2-3 week period and it stops working. Since clen lowers the conversion of t4 to t3 you might add that to a two week cycle.

this is ANOTHER reason not to use clen. why bother screwing with your thyroid unless you absolutely have to?

i NEVER use T-3 unless im at the 4 week mark (before a show) and i need an extra boost. T-3 should only be used after careful regulation of body temperature. you should record body temp (rectally) every morning, if it stays consistant and normal, your thyroid is working properly, there is no need to manipulate it.

an ECA stack is so much safer and much more effecient IMO.

and i still stand by my cycle. i have tried it both ways and found my way to be more effective, and there was no need for T-3.

but again, each to their own.


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BTW~i just spoke to a friend of mine who is a chemist.....he says that the half-life of clen is 8 HOURS but it is DETECTABLE in your system for 36 hours.....

he is going to send me some info that proves this, im off to work so i will post when i get home tonite:)


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Or you could do this...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Clenbuterol+half+life&spell=1

or this....

Yes, from what I could find, clen seems to have an initial "active" phase half-life of 6-8 hours - one place to check this is www.ventipulmin.com, select a product (ventipulmin syrup), then you will see it says "duration of effect - 6-8 hrs). The extended half-life of clen seems to be somewhat controversial however. I have heard 35 - 48 hrs, and as long as 4-7 days (detection in the urine). There is an interesting article here : http://www.247-pharmacy.com/Informa...enbuterol_.html

here's the article on clen, the second link doesn't seem to be going right to the page now, it goes to the main page of the site;

INFORMATION FOR PATIENTS TAKING CLENBUTEROL

The following information is intended to guide you in the safe use of this medicine. It is not meant to take the place of your doctor’s instructions.

Clenbuterol is a very interesting drug which has recently become popular amongst body builders.
Clenbuterol itself, is a third generation beta agonist. Clenbuterol's use as a bodybuilding drug item from a number of medical reviews which have cited its outstanding potential to promote muscle gains as well as fat loss. It has been used in parts of England for several years by a limited number of elite athletes.

More recently, due to the steroid crackdown, there have been an increasing number of American bodybuilders that are experimenting with this drug. Clenbuterol is indeed the most intriguing ergogenic aid I have studied with the sole exception of anabolic steroids.

Many athletes who use Clenbuterol claim that it promotes dramatic strength increases and a very noticeable reduction in body fat Some athletes claim that they enjoyed significant gains in muscle mass while using Clenbuterol. Clenbuterol's most valid application seems to be as a pre-contest, cutting drug.

It is not banned by any athletic committee; thus, numerous professional bodybuilders have used it for the last month of contest preparation. Athletes have used between 60-120 mcgs taken in divided doses daily. Because it causes a great deal of receptor downgrade it should not be used continually.

Research shows that using it for two days, then taking two days off prevents attenuation. Cycles range from 6-12 weeks in length. Side effects include nervousness, tremors of the hands, headaches, and insomnia. Usually these side effects are dose related. It comes in 20 mcg tablets. Clenbuterol is being counterfeited under numerous manufacturers names in the United States.

Although there is quite a bit of medical literature showing clenbuterol's potential as a bodybuilding drug, most of these studies have been done on animals; very little human data on this issue is available. Therefore, in assessing its effects in humans, you have to rely primarily on empirical and anecdotal evidence. And until recently, there has been little of that available. However, with the recent wide scale use of clenbuterol by athletes, we can now gather quite a bit of evidence on what the real world effects of clenbuterol are in weight trainers.

To say that clenbuterol use is rampant in bodybuilding right now would be an understatement. Thousands and thousands of athletes are using this drug. I personally know a number of pro football players, foreign Olympic athletes, and professional bodybuilders who are using clenbuterol. In addition, I have received feedback from at least 200 other athletes who have experimented with this novel compound. Generally, the feedback from clenbuterol users is that the drug produces dramatic body composition alterations. One Canadian strength coach compared the results he has seen in athletes using clenbuterol to what one might experience while using a stack of Anavar and Halotestin.

Within weeks of beginning clenbuterol therapy, many athletes notice a significant strength increase and a dramatic reduction in body fat. The results that occur secondary to clenbuterol administration seem to occur equally in men and women as well as young and old.

The average dosage of clenbuterol used by athletes is 3-4 20 mcg tablets taken in divided dosages throughout the day. At the extremes, some athletes have reported positive effects on as little as 1 tablet a day and others have used up to 10. The trick to using clenbuterol successfully seems to be avoidin receptor downgrade which occurs rapidly with the use of this beta agonist. In fact, one clinical study s owe at receptor owngrade as much as 50% is experienced after using clenbuterol for as little as 18 days consecutively. This same study showed that attenuation can be avoided if clenbuterol is taken in a 2 day on 2 day off pattern.

Athletes using clenbuterol in this manner have reported much greater results than those who use the product continualy which seems to support the theory that attenuation can be at least partially avoided by staggering the dosage. Athletes have also made a habit of cycling clenbuterol in an effort to minimize side effects as well as prevent receptor downgrade. Average cycle length on clenbuterol is 8-10 weeks with a 4-6 week off period.

this was my message back from him:) it seems we are both talking two different thing here i believe, i was referring to the "duration" effect....this is what enables people to run it 2on/2off.....

so, i guess we are both right;)


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Well said QOD, as usual you manage to get all the facts to back your position.


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dimmak
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Thanks for the post
oh, by the the way the site you put up says the effective dose is 30 days and the duration effect of 6 to 8 hours is for this.

1 Relieves reversible bronchospasm arising from a variety of respiratory conditions.
2 Increases mucous secretions for improved airway resistance.
3 Improves mucociliary transport by decreasing thickness of mucous.

Not fat loss.


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