Is there a major advantage to stacking the two together vs. using just clen?
Agreed on this.
Also please elaborate on the issue with clen and HIIT cardio?
Clen elevates heart rate and BP significantly. When i was on 80mcgs of Clen Low intensity cardio my heart rate would go north of 170.
HIIT and 30% to your heartrate isn't good nor is the BP issue.
Personally FUCK Clen. I would rather use DNP...but thats me.
I now know why it aint good to do the HIIT cardio lol!.....the high BP and elevated heart rate were killer! didn't even have to do much to get my heart rate up!
Clen I view as a last resort; if ECA or a good fat burner with T3 and diet won't do it then add Clen. It's DPzing but lots of sides.
oh yeah!...I just decided to give it a try. clen for 2 weeks taper up then down, was very interesting. I had sides but nothing unbearable. Elevated heart rate, BP and a strange light headache that I had to 3 days probably due to the high bp. at day 5 and 6 had slight shakes in my hands and found that I was stuttering a little bit but nothing noticeable by anyone just me as I would catch myself doing it and be like wtf its rare that I do that. It was fun, after I just used Ketotifen to upregulate my b2 receptors after that run. no clen. now im not on anything and back to normal. Noticed how much the bp impacted me though. I went heavy about 3 days after clen and did not have that crazy pressure in my head like I did when I was on.
Clen elevates heart rate and BP significantly. When i was on 80mcgs of Clen Low intensity cardio my heart rate would go north of 170.
HIIT and 30% to your heartrate isn't good nor is the BP issue.
Personally FUCK Clen. I would rather use DNP...but thats me.
Clen didn't make too major difference to my bp with HIIT.
I can peak at 190 BP without, no more than 195 BP with clen - but I don't run it more than 50-60mcg.
When do test subjects typically get the jittery feelings with Clen? A couple of hours, a day, 3-4days? Dosage dependent?
I'm not seeing the shakes as expected in my test subjects.