fellas, i'm in need of some help here. i ran a 16 week cycle this winter with way too much partying on the side. vacations, traveling, everything and anything..paying for it now. my liver values are horrible but getting better. no more orals or booze for a while. lesson learned.
i need help with a PCT that will help keep my toxicity levels as low as possible while trying to run at least a 4 week PCT (i should go for 6-8 weeks to fully recover but not sure if thats best considering my labs). currently only running a low dose of test c with advanced cycle support as well as other detoxification supps but here's what i ran..
test p - 350mg - for the first 6 weeks
test c - 600mg - started week 7
mast e - 600mg - ran thoughtout
var 80mg/day - beginning third of cycle
win 50mg/day - last third of cycle
HCG
caber
adex
the cycle does not look extremely harsh but when you're chasing it down with grey goose on the rocks...shit gets very toxic. again, lesson learned. also, the HCG was not ran consistently through cycle so not sure if i should wait until PCT to begin 1500-2500 shots or start now while i'm on a low test cruise.
any and all help is appreciated!
fellas, i'm in need of some help here. i ran a 16 week cycle this winter with way too much partying on the side. vacations, traveling, everything and anything..paying for it now. my liver values are horrible but getting better. no more orals or booze for a while. lesson learned.
i need help with a PCT that will help keep my toxicity levels as low as possible while trying to run at least a 4 week PCT (i should go for 6-8 weeks to fully recover but not sure if thats best considering my labs). currently only running a low dose of test c with advanced cycle support as well as other detoxification supps but here's what i ran..
test p - 350mg - for the first 6 weeks
test c - 600mg - started week 7
mast e - 600mg - ran thoughtout
var 80mg/day - beginning third of cycle
win 50mg/day - last third of cycle
HCG
caber
adex
the cycle does not look extremely harsh but when you're chasing it down with grey goose on the rocks...shit gets very toxic. again, lesson learned. also, the HCG was not ran consistently through cycle so not sure if i should wait until PCT to begin 1500-2500 shots or start now while i'm on a low test cruise.
any and all help is appreciated!
What are your liver values exactly?
What detox supps? Liv52 and Milk Thistle have benefits for the liver. If you're still drinking like a maniac, cut it out.
You would run HCG in the weeks before you start PCT.
If you're looking to start PCT, I would stop "cruising" now, here's a 5-week suggestion:
Aromasin 25mg/25mg/12.5mg/12.5mg/12.5mg
Nolva 40/40/20/20/10
4 weeks should really be enough, you can chop off the last week.
What are your liver values exactly?
What detox supps? Liv52 and Milk Thistle have benefits for the liver. If you're still drinking like a maniac, cut it out.
You would run HCG in the weeks before you start PCT.
If you're looking to start PCT, I would stop "cruising" now, here's a 5-week suggestion:
Aromasin 25mg/25mg/12.5mg/12.5mg/12.5mg
Nolva 40/40/20/20/10
4 weeks should really be enough, you can chop off the last week.
thanks for the response.
here are my improved numbers from my labs last week. bad but significantly better. my doc has me getting labs every 3-4 weeks right now.
AST
95
10-40 U/L
ALT
170
9-60 U/L
milk thistle, vitamin c, b vitamins...standard stuff. Not drinking anymore. are you suggesting i skip the HCG and go right into PCT? are you keeping clomid out of the PCT because of its toxicity?
Thanks again
thanks for the response.
here are my improved numbers from my labs last week. bad but significantly better. my doc has me getting labs every 3-4 weeks right now.
AST
95
10-40 U/L
ALT
170
9-60 U/L
milk thistle, vitamin c, b vitamins...standard stuff. Not drinking anymore. are you suggesting i skip the HCG and go right into PCT? are you keeping clomid out of the PCT because of its toxicity?
Thanks again
Ouch, doesn't look good.
Both clomid and nolva are marginally liver toxic, nothing compared to a c-17 alpha-alkylated oral steroid though and nothing to be worried about.
It depends on your timeframe - if it's going to take a week or two to get your PCT stuff, I'd run HCG in the meantime. You should have stopped testosterone 2 weeks before your PCT in any case.
Ouch, doesn't look good.
Both clomid and nolva are marginally liver toxic, nothing compared to a c-17 alpha-alkylated oral steroid though and nothing to be worried about.
It depends on your timeframe - if it's going to take a week or two to get your PCT stuff, I'd run HCG in the meantime. You should have stopped testosterone 2 weeks before your PCT in any case.
ok, so i will add in clomid. 100/100/75/50..sound good?
what dose do you recommend for the HCG? also, should i run HCG from now til 2 weeks after last inject then begin PCT and stop HCG?