Sust/winny stack. Please critique

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Posted by: @johnnyboy004

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Alright, so as of right now I think I have two options since the sust is already on the way: I can transfer the amps into sterile viles as suggested. Or i can pick up some extra prop to make sure I got the prop in eod.

Since there is only 30 mgs of prop in each amp of sust, would it be wise to keep the dosage the same to keep bloods level when I ran the prop injections solo?

Any of you guys have any experience or advise on the above? Want to keep the sust down too 500mg/week. Thinking about adding extra prop pins to keep the bloods stable and get some use out of the prop.

Both of these guys are giving good advice. Regardless of what esters you want to incorporate, you have sus already. So what you are trying to do is make a good stack out of what gear you already have. To give you an idea about prop, the half-life is usually four days. So this would overlap to your next pin. However, with only 30mg of prop I would say that that would only "Really" work for about 24hrs. Test prop is best shot every other day. However, this is your first cycle and I would only stick to 500-600mg/week like said above. And if you want for the sus, shooting it three times a week is not a bad idea. Sus will hold less water than C or E. What you could do is pre-load a 3ml syringe with 2mls of sus and 1ml of prop. Your new to this so there's no need to get to crazy on here. Regardless of what the half-lifes of all the esters in sus are, being that this is your first, you will grow.

Hey bro, if you don't mine, what gear do you have to work with right now. Don't list how much, just what do you have right now?

Posted by: @roidsr4m3

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Hey bro, if you don't mine, what gear do you have to work with right now. Don't list how much, just what do you have right now?

Sust - belco
winny - alpha
adex - Astramzenica
Letro- Name brand
Nolva- was supposed to be name brand but got generic

Not planning to start till oct 1. So I would have time to add some prop if it is the best route.

Posted by: @bigd

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Both of these guys are giving good advice. Regardless of what esters you want to incorporate, you have sus already. So what you are trying to do is make a good stack out of what gear you already have. To give you an idea about prop, the half-life is usually four days. So this would overlap to your next pin. However, with only 30mg of prop I would say that that would only "Really" work for about 24hrs. Test prop is best shot every other day. However, this is your first cycle and I would only stick to 500-600mg/week like said above. And if you want for the sus, shooting it three times a week is not a bad idea. Sus will hold less water than C or E. What you could do is pre-load a 3ml syringe with 2mls of sus and 1ml of prop. Your new to this so there's no need to get to crazy on here. Regardless of what the half-lifes of all the esters in sus are, being that this is your first, you will grow.

Thanks bro. I'd like to keep it simple. Most importantly, I just want to make sure I do it right. So I'm greatful for all the input.

Posted by: @johnnyboy004

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Sust - belco
winny - alpha
adex - Astramzenica
Letro- Name brand
Nolva- was supposed to be name brand but got generic

Not planning to start till oct 1. So I would have time to add some prop if it is the best route.

For your PCT, drop the erase and even DAA and use adex. Be careful with that winny, it'll be tough on your joints.

Don't worry about name brand vs generic if you're buying from a legit pharmacy.

Wanna give us a complete recap of what your planned cycle is now?

Posted by: @rainier

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For your PCT, drop the erase and even DAA and use adex. Be careful with that winny, it'll be tough on your joints.

Don't worry about name brand vs generic if you're buying from a legit pharmacy.

Wanna give us a complete recap of what your planned cycle is now?

Weeks 1-12 250 mon thurs
Weeks 8-12 Winny ed
Weeks 2-12 Adex .25 eod

Pct Nolva 40/30/20/20

What would the proper Adex dose be for pct if I use that instead of the erase and DAA?

*cut the winny down from 6 weeks to 4 as suggested by bid D and some others
*running the sust 250 mon thur to keep the dose at 500mg/week as opposed to 250mg e3d

I know I'm wasting the prop by going mon thurs. I don't feel comfortable transferring the amps into a sterile vile to run 200mg mon wed Friday. I'm new to this, and don't want to risk possible contamination in the transfer.

Alright bros, back to the drawing board. I'm thinking about cutting the winny out of my cycle and running either mast or primo with it. I love what I'm reading about mast and primo..e2 control, great for lower calorie runs, Increased sex drive, no dry joints like winny, less frequent pins, less sides, and in general how well liked primo and mast are.

My stats and goals are all above, price is not going to decide it for me, it's going to be all about results. In a head to head of winny vs primo or mast, what would you vets choose based on my stats and goals?

Alright bros, back to the drawing board. I'm thinking about cutting the winny out of my cycle and running either mast or primo with it. I love what I'm reading about mast and primo..e2 control, great for lower calorie runs, Increased sex drive, no dry joints like winny, less frequent pins, less sides, and in general how well liked primo and mast are.

My stats and goals are all above, price is not going to decide it for me, it's going to be all about results. In a head to head of winny vs primo or mast, what would you vets choose based on my stats and goals?
Both winny and mast are great for drying you out (and baldness! Watch out if you or your family are prone!). Mast won't give you joint problems though. Primo is a little weak and generally expensive, you'll need a lot to get good effects (but it's a great compound at expensive high doses). Leave that out for cycle far in the future, and I suggest you leave mast for future cycles.

If you're bulking, use dbol. Otherwise, if you're on recomp or cutting, I suggest tbol (it's a dry dbol, best way to describe it) or winny. Tbol and winny are both orals, so there's an advantage over your other two options (mast and primo) right there for you, especially for a first time cycle when you don't want too many pins involved.

I would personally use tbol, no one I know has ever regretted that compound. Front-load it for the first 5-6 weeks of your cycle.

Have you already bought adex? If not, get aromasin instead. Aromasin is a suicidal inhibtor, adex isn't. Adex run for the first 14 days of PCT at 0.25 ED is good with nolva or clomid PCT.

Also forgot to mention - winny is sort of anti-estrogenic. I wouldn't personally run adex during the same weeks as winny.

Both winny and mast are great for drying you out (and baldness! Watch out if you or your family are prone!). Mast won't give you joint problems though. Primo is a little weak and generally expensive, you'll need a lot to get good effects (but it's a great compound at expensive high doses). Leave that out for cycle far in the future, and I suggest you leave mast for future cycles.

If you're bulking, use dbol. Otherwise, if you're on recomp or cutting, I suggest tbol (it's a dry dbol, best way to describe it) or winny. Tbol and winny are both orals, so there's an advantage over your other two options (mast and primo) right there for you, especially for a first time cycle when you don't want too many pins involved.

I would personally use tbol, no one I know has ever regretted that compound. Front-load it for the first 5-6 weeks of your cycle.

Have you already bought adex? If not, get aromasin instead. Aromasin is a suicidal inhibtor, adex isn't. Adex run for the first 14 days of PCT at 0.25 ED is good with nolva or clomid PCT.

Awesome advice. Thanks Rainier. Im going to look into the tbol. I am recomping so i would prefer a compound like tbol to the water weight ive seen guys get with dbol. I especially like the idea of the tbol front load since alot of guys say it takes about 3-4 weeks for the sust to start kicking in

I will save the adex for pct and pick up some aromasin.

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