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Gvt, Good For Size But Not For Strength. Good For Aas?


rast4man
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Anyone want to take a look at this article by Mike Mahler on GVT and share some ideas. I'm looking for a new training routine and I am on AAS. I'm going for LBM but some size. Feedback is appreciated.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mahler86.htm


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Kimbo
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Variations of GVT can be used for strength. Simply increase the intensity and lower the reps per set (10 sets of 3-5 reps). Note that I think that GVT is probably best for hypertrophy, and that there are other ways to build strength that are better than a modified GVT program, but it can be used for building strength.

Anyway, give it a try if you want. I wasn't on AAS, but I did make some pretty decent size/muscular endurance gains while on GVT.

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I'm not interested in strength gains right now. I have and have always had explosive strength. When I'm cycling, it's just that much more intense. I'm going for all out size and muscularity on this one. I'm not trying to look like a meathead mind you, but I want drastic (240-245 as opposed to 220-230 Lbs.) results this cycle moreso than my last.


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A friend of mine is starting onto a GVT program for hypertrophy - just sent him your link.

Would you log your progress?

Anyone have an opinion of GVT for unassisted folks?

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rast4man
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Posted by: @Jinx Me
A friend of mine is starting onto a GVT program for hypertrophy - just sent him your link.

Would you log your progress?

Anyone have an opinion of GVT for unassisted folks?

I will definitely log it if I decide to go this route. I'm looking at a few other possibilities. I'm thinking about incorporating some GVT into my own type of routine to balance what I need as far as results. I'm just not keen on the basic exercises (albeit they are great ones) but like I said, I'm going for all out this time and I think I need more exercises in my routine than what was listed in the link I posted.


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Posted by: @Jinx Me
Anyone have an opinion of GVT for unassisted folks?

Excellent for both hypertrophy gains as well as strength endurance.

I forget the exact order of exercises I used, but I did 10x10 barbell squats (4-0-X-0) with 1 minute rest between sets, and dumbell bench press (3-0-X-0) bi-setted with assisted (Gravitron) chinups (3-0-X-0) with 30 seconds rest in between. The assisted chinups absolutely killed my forearms. I made sure to take in plenty of calories during this time and I still actually got leaner. People were wondering what the hell I was doing.

The only thing negative about it is that it causes a huge amount of DOMS because of the 3-4 second negative and tons of volume. You also don't want to do it for any more than 4-6 weeks.

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Posted by: @Kimbo
You also don't want to do it for any more than 4-6 weeks.

Considering he's on AAS, he could go for it much longer though.


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Posted by: @Jeff
Considering he's on AAS, he could go for it much longer though.

Right. Jinx was asking about GVT for the non-assisted, so that was to her.

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Much for size than strength for most lifters.

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I would recommend the Charles Poliquin 10x10 version on this program http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/luis13.htm

I did it for 25 days while natty and made some good gains. It is hard on joints though and I would recommend supplementing somthing for joints if you are not already doing so (I wasn't at the time). I was planning on another 25 days but right now am just too busy to be getting enough sleep, ect.. When I did do it I was getting min 4k cals and 9+ hours of sleep a night... but again I was natty following this program.

Heres another good article on Charles Poliquin's GVT http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=658759


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