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scottyo
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I know a number of people, readers here and posting elsewhere are in a simlar boat. So i was hoping we could gather some diverse information together into one comprehensive thread.
Maybe this belongs in Health, but I know this is a much more frequented area, and I do also want supplement advice.

Along with low test, thryoid etc. I was diagnosed with Adrenal fatigue a couple of months ago. I am currently on isocort to rest the adrenal glands and help me recover (although i think i might need Cortef). Anyways, for those of you who've dealt with these types of issues, or have the background I was wondering what advice people could give.

Ive had pretty extensive blood, saliva, and stool work done. Instead of laying out all my problems specifics, I thought we could put together a list of supplements, a diet strategy, thoughts on working out/cardio, as well as any other lifestyle advice.

I'll divide this into sections, and edit it as we go along provided others feel free to pitch in.

Supplements:
Adrenal glandulars/isocort/Cortef= some type of cortisol if advanced stages
good probiotic supplement
Vitamin C 3-5 grams
DHEA
Ashwagandha, (dosage??)
coq10
fish oil (probably cod liver to get vite a,e,d)
Full spectrum B vitamins
Magnesium
taurine
Betaine (as TMG)
p-5-p
some type of adaptogens....(but do we really want 'bandaids'?)
Vitamin D
Phosphorylated serine
L-Tyrosine, lysine, proline, glutamine
800 iu Vit E
200 mcg Selenium
Licorice Root
Siberian Gingseng
25mg pregnenolone
Bioflavinoids
Cordyceps
5HTP
Magnesium
GABA
extra 2G of Sea Salt

Diet:
I am at a loss here. Ive heard low carb, higher fat, or low GI carb but moderate carb. Im thinking zone diet ish? But also looking for food choices.
I know eggs are good, as are quality protein sources. anything particular carb or vegetable wise? or specific fats?

Exercise:
Yes, NO?
If so, what kind?

Lifestyle:
Early bedtime
Daily sunlight
meditation, relaxation techniques:

deep breathing
leisurely walk

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Look at my last article:

Page 5-6 III The great restorer--do the advanced version on page 6 for 20 minutes/day--you will really notice a difference (and I speak from experience).

DHEA might be useful also.

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im on the DHea. Ill add that in.

Ill look at your article now. would do it pre-bed but maybe need to print it off then.


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I have been suffering with Adrenal fatigue for a while now. Been half a year on cortef and I think next month my doctor will be taking me off of it to test my adrenals again.

Couple other supplements:

B5 (higher doses)
Biotin (higher doses)
Phosphorylated serine
L-Tyrosine, lysine, proline, glutamine
800 iu Vit E
200 mcg Selenium
Licorice Root
Siberian Gingseng
25mg pregnenolone
Bioflavinoids
Cordyceps
5HTP
Magnesium
GABA
2G of Sea Salt

I've been told to stay off of a low carb diet because people with adrenal fatigue can go hypoglycemic easier. Fresh fruits and whole grains are best. Avoid caffeine and any other stimulants.


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i started with GREENS+ and a good probiotic every morning. Also Life extension multi at full dose. I am having pretty good results with what i believe is either chronic fatigue or adrenal fatigue for me personally.

I also added ALCAR and some choline supps as my brain power has been a bit diminshed and its very hard to not chase down some caffiene in the morning. The green tea and Alcar really help curb the coffee craving.


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I too would like to hear the experts opinion on whether or not weight training can be done while suffering from adrenal fatigue? Coz with the continous increase in poundage there is more stress put on the body.

Has anybody read Dr James L.Wilson's book ''Adrenal Fatigue the 21st Century Stress Syndrome''. Its a very useful book.


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Posted by: @Jodi
I have been suffering with Adrenal fatigue for a while now. Been half a year on cortef and I think next month my doctor will be taking me off of it to test my adrenals again.

Couple other supplements:

B5 (higher doses)
Biotin (higher doses)
Phosphorylated serine
L-Tyrosine, lysine, proline, glutamine
800 iu Vit E
200 mcg Selenium
Licorice Root
Siberian Gingseng
25mg pregnenolone
Bioflavinoids
Cordyceps
5HTP
Magnesium
GABA
2G of Sea Salt

I've been told to stay off of a low carb diet because people with adrenal fatigue can go hypoglycemic easier. Fresh fruits and whole grains are best. Avoid caffeine and any other stimulants.

thanks for the updated list. I am on most of those already (unfortunately). I really think I need Cortef, as this isocort just doesn't seem to be doing the job. And I have to go gluten free so there goes alot of grains, and the doc wants me to limit fruits until the candida is taken care of (3 months).
Got the stimulant thing in check.
Any dosage on teh licorice root? and is it good for men (the low test issue?)


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Posted by: @Mike250
I too would like to hear the experts opinion on whether or not weight training can be done while suffering from adrenal fatigue? Coz with the continous increase in poundage there is more stress put on the body.

Has anybody read Dr James L.Wilson's book ''Adrenal Fatigue the 21st Century Stress Syndrome''. Its a very useful book.

I was told to stop lifting for the first 3 months of medication. I did pilates, some yoga and cardio but not much more. It wasn't until last month that I was given the ok to lift and I'm still on cortef.


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Posted by: @scottyo
thanks for the updated list. I am on most of those already (unfortunately). I really think I need Cortef, as this isocort just doesn't seem to be doing the job. And I have to go gluten free so there goes alot of grains, and the doc wants me to limit fruits until the candida is taken care of (3 months).
Got the stimulant thing in check.
Any dosage on teh licorice root? and is it good for men (the low test issue?)

3-5G a day. I heard in really high doses it can lower test.


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Posted by: @ScottL
Look at my last article:

Page 5-6 III The great restorer--do the advanced version on page 6 for 20 minutes/day--you will really notice a difference (and I speak from experience).

DHEA might be useful also.

Great stuff, btw, Scott. I keep forgetting to commend you on sharing with us. This is much appreciated...

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Great stuff, btw, Scott. I keep forgetting to commend you on sharing with us. This is much appreciated...

by the way. i tried it last night. feet fell asleep after about 3 minutes (very common with my 'issues'). Felt good afterwords, but then tried going to bed, and that and the fact it was after 1015 (if i cant fall asleep before 1015, i wont until 1am because of my adrenals)...well i had a long night.

but ill try it again this evening and keep it up.


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Can we get some diet and lifestyle ideas. the restoring Yoga was a good addition.

what about whether working out is good or bad, or to be done or avoided.

Jodi is saying her doc said avoid it. How long, month or 2 or longer?


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by the way. i tried it last night. feet fell asleep after about 3 minutes (very common with my 'issues'). Felt good afterwords, but then tried going to bed, and that and the fact it was after 1015 (if i cant fall asleep before 1015, i wont until 1am because of my adrenals)...well i had a long night.
but ill try it again this evening and keep it up.

If you have trouble falling asleep the exercise from page 3 of this article (Finger exercise) :

is very likely to help. Really will put almost anyone to sleep (though perhaps not some of the extreme/unusual cases of insomnia on this board).

Oh ya I'd check out the rest of that article also. The mellow music pieces would probably be particularly good. Soma and Mike Rowland particularly.

I also like ashwaganda.

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i would say light to moderate exercise should be ok. I just know i cant define between nothing and too much lol. Many people i have talked to find exercise helpful. I too find i am in a better mood, and overall more energetic with exercise, but i hit that point of no return once the "meathead" mentality kicks in. Just 10-15 mins cardio and about 6-8 sets of 10-12 between a few exercises is very helpful, but its so hard to just to do so little, and lighter weights at that.


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Ive found that for myself, the two biggest things right now for improvement are no vigorous exercise. Ill do a 30-40 minute walk outside usually, but nothing more and still have not been to the gym.

The second thing is to get my ass in bed and asleep before 10 or 1030, when the adrenals kick into high gear. If I do that, I am starting to be able to keep a stable temperature throughout the day provided I take my cortisol and thyroid meds. If I sleep bad or cant sleep one night, its not uncommon to have the next day be very bad. temps fluctuating between 95 and 97.9

and when I exercise intensely, or even moderate intensity, I would notice the first thing was my morning and daily temps would plummet.


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