Dragon Pharma Enantat 250 – good for first real cycle?

Good on you for ditching the oral-only nonsense. Now let me save you some trouble.

DP Enantat is solid. I've seen bloodwork from three different guys on this exact product – all came back around 2400-2600 ng/dL at 500mg/week which is exactly what you'd expect from properly dosed enanthate. No underdosing red flags.

Pip is minimal with their recent batches. They use MCT oil which is thin and smooth. Some guys complain about post-injection pain but that's usually poor technique or virgin muscle. Warm the vial, inject slow, massage after. You'll be fine.

Your plan:

• 500mg/week for 12 weeks – good
• Arimidex on hand – good but don't just take it blindly. Start 0.25mg EOD only if you get high estrogen sides (itchy nipples, bloating, mood swings)
• PCT with nolva + clomid – standard but start PCT 2 weeks after last pin because enanthate clears slower than prop

One warning – DP Test E is dosed accurately so your estrogen WILL rise. Don't be afraid of AI but don't crush estrogen either. Bloods at week 6 are mandatory for a first cycle.

Was Up,

I recently started a cycle of Test E a couple of weeks back. The first week on the cycle was amazing. I had a ton of energy, lifts were great, and my sex drive was through the roof. Once I started the second week it hit me like a sack of bricks. I was tired all the time, depressed, and had a total lack of motivation. I started taking formadrol because I thought it was estrogen levels rising to fast, and that helped for a little bit. The week that passed after I started the formadrol was a lot like the first. Now I'm four weeks into the cycle and I feel like how I was in week 2. I started taking my nolvadex and thats helping a little but not much. I have cycled through Test E before and haven't had these side effects. Any recommendations?

Test E takes at least 4 weeks to exert any noticeable effects. So you feeling good the first week you started injecting it was 100% in your head or due to something else. Formadrol a pro-hormone marketed by LG Sciences, are you sure this is what you took to try and combat high estrogen? It will do nothing to help in that area, and I would drop it from your cycle unless you had planned to use it all along. Nolvadex will prevent estrogen from binding to breast tissue receptors, but is not the best choice for E2 control. You need to have an aromatase inhibitor such as Aromasin or Arimidex to control your estrogen levels.

Take a minute, and post up what you current cycle is - that will help us help you. Did you post this in Dragon Pharma's forum because you are using his Test E?

Thanks for the Response.

To answer your questions yeah bro, I'm currently using Dragon Pharma Test E. In terms of my current cycle, I'm doing two 250 mg injections a week (One on Sunday and the other on Wednesday) and I'm taking 2 to 3 formadrol capsules a day. Like I said, I have taken Test E before and was able to take formadrol with it and not feel any side effects, which is why I didn't think about picking up Aromasin or Amridex. Do you have any recommendations where I can buy better AI's. Also, dude I'm not going to lie, I really was feeling this stuff after my second injection. After the Test E I was planning to switch to Sust.

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. I have used formadrol before as well, so I'm going to try to give you an educated guess as to what is going on. Formadrol by itself makes me lethargic. Being that Test E doesn't really impact how you feel until feel until week 4 or 5, I would say you are just feeling the effects of a shitty pro-hormone, and your libido/strength/mood will increase markedly in the next 2-3 weeks. If it were me, I would just hang tight and keep doing what you are doing for 2 more weeks, then reevaluate how you feel.

In terms of an AI - many don't require much on 500mg test per week. Formadrol is not entirely a poor choice, because there is some anecdotal evidence out there that it has some anti-estrogenic qualities, but this is very controversial, and there are much better options out there.

Aromasin (exemestane) from CEM products or Researchstop.com is the best choice IMO. A dose of 12.5mg EOD should be more than enough. I would drop the formadrol if you decide to go that route. Stop taking the Nolvadex as well, and save that for your PCT.

Thanks a bunch bro. I'm going to take your advice and tough it out for a few more weeks on the formadrol. I might buy the Aromasin for a just in case type thing. Again thanks bro. Really do love the help you can find on this forum.

Test E takes at least 4 weeks to exert any noticeable effects. So you feeling good the first week you started injecting it was 100% in your head or due to something else. Formadrol a pro-hormone marketed by LG Sciences, are you sure this is what you took to try and combat high estrogen? It will do nothing to help in that area, and I would drop it from your cycle unless you had planned to use it all along. Nolvadex will prevent estrogen from binding to breast tissue receptors, but is not the best choice for E2 control. You need to have an aromatase inhibitor such as Aromasin or Arimidex to control your estrogen levels.

Take a minute, and post up what you current cycle is - that will help us help you. Did you post this in Dragon Pharma's forum because you are using his Test E?

i cant add anything, that is the perfect anser, and everything he needs to know, thank you my man, you know your shit bro,!!

Just adding in I felt like crap the first 3-4 weeks, achy, high body temp, sore virgin muscles, tired, mood swings, test flu like a motherfucker. You say everything was great the first week but like gsracer said there's no way you could notice anything yet, I personally did have a hell of a placebo effect the first week tho lol.

What GS and Intense said are spot-on.

4 weeks minimum, only aromasin (and a small amount) with your AAS, placebo etc.

Hey guys, thought I would give an update. I think what I was feeling was the beginning stages of Test Flu. I have been on my ass the last couple of days, but I'm starting to get over it. Seriously can't wait to get back in the gym and seeing some good gains. Thanks again for the advice everybody.

Good luck man and well said everyone else