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GSRacer
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Posted by: @talentiert

well bro.
aro and clomid are booth 4 weeks long did i got you?
and every day that dose?

That's right.


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Posted by: @nby

You need a much longer PCT than 4 weeks of clomid bro, you've been on for a year!

Try 6 to 8 weeks of clomid + nolvadex + aromasin.

Why both Nolva and Clomid? I still think he should do 4 weeks, get blood work 4 weeks after that, then repeat if necessary.


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to get off the bloated face.
i think its from wather and also cause i havent used arimidex so its from östrogen i think.
how can i get ride of it fast?
arimidex and lasix?



   
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Any AI (Arimidex or Aromasin, for example), will help with the bloat caused by high Estradiol (Oestrogen) levels. While you are still on cycle, you should start using an AI as soon as you can.


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Clomid, Nolva, Aromasin for PCT, 5-6 weeks.
Anyone want to suggest dosing?

GS had the right start:

Start HCG at 500iu's now.

PCT:

Aromasin 25mg/25/25/25/12.5/12.5
Clomid 100mg/75/75/75/50/50
Nolva 40mg/40/20/20/20/10

(That means 25mg aromasin, 100mg clomid, 40mg nolva first week
25mg, 75mg, 40mg second week, so on)



   
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Posted by: @talentiert

hi,
i have done some small bloodtest and got some results..

DPT(ALAT) (u/l) 97 (10-50)
GOT(ASAT) (u/l)55 (10-50)
Hämoglobin (g/dl) 17,8 (13-17)
Monocyten (%) 8,60 (1-7)
Kreatinin (mg/dl) 1,65 (0,8-1,4)
Cholesterin 193
blood pressure160/120

doesnt sound so good i think. ( those are just the values which where over the max.)

any suggestions?

I just saw these values... brother this is not good at all!

Your values, particularly cholesterol and blood pressure are very bad.
Liver is also pretty bad.

We are all bodybuilders here and look out for each others' health. You should come off soon for your own health.


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Clomid, Nolva, Aromasin for PCT, 5-6 weeks.

GS had the right start for HCG:

If you have it on-hand, start running it now at 500iu twice per week. If you don't have it yet, run it at 1000-2000iu twice per week for the last few weeks of your cycle, and while the esters are clearing during those 2 weeks before PCT.

Drop HCG before PCT, then

PCT:

Aromasin 25mg/25/25/25/12.5/12.5
Clomid 100mg/75/75/75/50/50
Nolva 40mg/40/20/20/20/10

(That means 25mg aromasin, 100mg clomid, 40mg nolva first week
25mg, 75mg, 40mg second week, so on)



   
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Pretty normal values for a bodybuilder on a blast. I would get a large BP cuff and retest BP first thing in the morning when you get out of bed. Start pushing fluids and forget about using aas orals for 6 months.


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I agree with the other brothers. At 18 your bp should be something like 115/65. Yours is quite serious. That bottom number should never go above 100. Your cholestrol isn't too bad but I would look at your diet. Get on some low fat and low sodium and clean foods. Do cardio at least 3 times a week and yes give it a break ! If you were to go on like this you are at very high risk for cardio vascular disease and maybe a heart attack at 30. Also I would never bridge on tren ! 18 is too young to start heavy cycles IMHO. Do you plan on having children ? You need to go off with proper PCT and let your endocrine system get back to normal. Hell at 18 most guys hormones aren't even set at normal yet ! Take care of yourself my friend. I know you are highly motivated and want it all now but BBing takes time. You are just at the start of a very exciting and fullfilling journey, don't rush it.



   
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Posted by: @rainier

Clomid, Nolva, Aromasin for PCT, 5-6 weeks.

GS had the right start for HCG:

If you have it on-hand, start running it now at 500iu twice per week. If you don't have it yet, run it at 1000-2000iu twice per week for the last few weeks of your cycle, and while the esters are clearing during those 2 weeks before PCT.

Drop HCG before PCT, then

PCT:

Aromasin 25mg/25/25/25/12.5/12.5
Clomid 100mg/75/75/75/50/50
Nolva 40mg/40/20/20/20/10

(That means 25mg aromasin, 100mg clomid, 40mg nolva first week
25mg, 75mg, 40mg second week, so on)

thank you hopefully getting that shit fast enough.

maybe will try it with prescription.

thanks for your help guys.


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Posted by: @heavyiron

Pretty normal values for a bodybuilder on a blast. I would get a large BP cuff and retest BP first thing in the morning when you get out of bed. Start pushing fluids and forget about using aas orals for 6 months.

Heavy, he's also 18.


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And he's not on blast, he's on cruise.



   
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Posted by: @nby

You need a much longer PCT than 4 weeks of clomid bro, you've been on for a year!

Try 6 to 8 weeks of clomid + nolvadex + aromasin.

Yeah NBY, I stand corrected bro. I missed that he had been on for so long.


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your BP should be 120/80. If I were u I would go to your physician & let them get an accurate BP. The bottom number should be lower b/c that's when your heart should be resting. You should make an appt. ASAP!!!



   
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My BP is sky high when using the normal sized cuff. Need to use the large cuff first thing AM to get a true reading.

18 is a bit young though.


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