dainty shoulders

All that for delts in one workout is overkill. They're not recovering, also when do you train them? After chest? Scale back, let them rest and see what happens.

That's totally unnecessary, bro. You are overtraining and even more if you do it on chest day. I only do db military press, lateral raises, and reverse flyes. I feel that they get worked out enough when we do chest and back as secondary muscles.

I do shoulders by themselves because I want huge ones.

You're overtraining them, I do a pressing movement, a rear lateral movement, a side lateral movement and very rarely something for front delts. You are doing way too much in my opinion. 3-4 sets of each movement, keep the reps in the 8-12 range and if you eat right you'll grow.

Damn that explains y my shoulders are still dainty..thanks for the input..I change things up..

How about huge traps what do you guys do for huge traps?

Shrugs, heavy rows, rack pulls all work traps

You're overtraining, as the others have mentioned. Cut back.
Power cleans, shrugs, cable lateral raises for the traps.

Damn..alright I'll cut back.. I never thought i would get close to over training..I always thought I wasn't doing enough

I've got a huge issue with developing big Delts and traps.. I feel I wreck them every week but can't seem to get the "yoked" out look I want. Any one have any suggestions for massive size?

My current work out is:
Behind the neck press
Military press
Lateral raises
Front raises
Dips
Arnold presses
Reverse flies..
Any suggestions !

to much bro. learn the basics, concentrate on working the muscle.

(heavy) Barebell shoulder press. 6-8 rep range.
PROPER upright rows or side laterals.

Do this for afew years and then wory about the fancy shit. You gotta realize when you see all the pros doing side laterals, front raises, arnold press. They already have the mass, they are looking to refine and add detail.

Damn..alright I'll cut back.. I never thought i would get close to over training..I always thought I wasn't doing enough

If you do heavy bb shoulder presses correctly and heavy enough you won't be able to do anything else.

^^^so true

Thanks for.the help I switch it up immediately

Wow. Maybe i've been overtraining my shoulders. Heres my workout

Sitting military press
Hammer Machine Shoulder press
Arnolds (light weight)
Side Raises
Front Raises (using t-bar)
Barbell pull ups (pulling the barbell up to your chin)
For rear delts, I get on bench, lean forward, and use dumbbells and flare them out. I forget the name.

Then I do traps... lol