Best cycle ever

I'm not trying to be a prophet of doom or rain on your parade. I have made the choice to cycle and I love doing it. But there most certainly can be health consequences to long term and high dose AAS use. We all must realize that. I don't want to hyjack the thread. I'm just trying to be cautious . It can never be JUST what will give me the best gains. Some cycles can be reckless. Many would question weather someone under 25 should juice beacuse of the issue of the endocrine system not being fully matured and having reached it's " set point ". If you mess with it before then you may never get back. And I hope you are not serious about hrt at 23 ? Again I support you Brother. Your idea of the test,npp and dbol cycle sounds great just keep the orals to a minumum. The issue of the possible consequences of what we do is a much larger topic but there most certainly are some. I always try to be the voice of caution . Also I am not accusing you personally of being reckless.

Posted by: @l69lou

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I'm not trying to be a prophet of doom or rain on your parade. I have made the choice to cycle and I love doing it. But there most certainly can be health consequences to long term and high dose AAS use. We all must realize that. I don't want to hyjack the thread. I'm just trying to be cautious . It can never be JUST what will give me the best gains. Some cycles can be reckless. Many would question weather someone under 25 should juice beacuse of the issue of the endocrine system not being fully matured and having reached it's " set point ". If you mess with it before then you may never get back. And I hope you are not serious about hrt at 23 ? Again I support you Brother. Your idea of the test,npp and dbol cycle sounds great just keep the orals to a minumum. The issue of the possible consequences of what we do is a much larger topic but there most certainly are some. I always try to be the voice of caution . Also I am not accusing you personally of being reckless.

Thank you for your input but no thanks at the same time. I like to live my life to the fullest getting the most out of it. If that means dying 5 even 10 years earlier so be it at least I KNOW I was the happiest I could possibly be.

And yes I am serious about TRT possibly (depending on a few things). I had pubertal gyno and naturally low test. My endo offered an ai when I was 15 but my parents denied it (oh well). Since I've started AAS and ancillaries in general, no gyno, and when I'm off cycle my natural test and estro are in the normal ranges.

Back to THE BEST CYCLE EVER.

So current decision is truly between Deca or NPP?? I'm not a huge fan of frequent injections in general but if I did go all out with Deca may end up being a 16-18 week cycle.. haha opinions?

Many would question weather someone under 25 should juice beacuse of the issue of the endocrine system not being fully matured and having reached it's " set point "

Also, from a science point of view this is one of the most ambiguous statements I've ever heard. Given my knowledge of my endocrine system: being on AAS, by the bloodwork numbers and overall living, has proven to be much more beneficial than remaining completely natural.

Hit the deca good for joints and sides

I started kind of young and I'm not much older than u some I'm biased

Another possibility:

Week 1-4 Anadrol 100mg/Day
Week 1-16 Test E 800mg/Week
Week 1-12 Deca 500mg/Week
Week 12-16 Winny 100mg/Day

Thoughts??

I like it u could run your deca two weeks longer I would sub winny for anadrol again...winny is murder on joints and w a solid diet u can lean up w anadrol

Posted by: @vicious-13

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I like it u could run your deca two weeks longer I would sub winny for anadrol again...winny is murder on joints and w a solid diet u can lean up w anadrol

hmm will definitely take into consideration. thanks for the help vicious

Posted by: @bluejaymuscle

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Another possibility:

Week 1-4 Anadrol 100mg/Day
Week 1-16 Test E 800mg/Week
Week 1-12 Deca 500mg/Week
Week 12-16 Winny 100mg/Day

Thoughts??

Other then adding 2 additional wks to the Deca it looks good. The Drol at the end is a good suggestion but I would consider running it wks 14-18 ( 2wks while the esters are clearing) and dropping it 2-3 days before pct begins. Be sure and have your AI's and some caber on hand. One last thought, around wk 8 you may wanna at least plan ahead to consider bumping the test and Deca doses up...just a thought 🙂

Test/Eq/Deca is a great cycle for gaining mass. Test/Mast/Win is a great cycle for dry fullness. if you can handle it Test/Tren/Eq is also a good one. I don't use much GH but4-6 iu does wonders for a cycle. These days I add in IGF-1 lr3 and GHRP2.

Lookin like it'll be:

Week 1-4 Anadrol 100mg/Day
Week 1-16 Test E 800mg/Week
Week 1-14 Deca 500mg/Week
Week 12-16 Anadrol 100mg/Day

with diet first 8 weeks being bulk and second being more lean

NPP fucking overshadows deca imo. No bloat, faster reaction and more actual nandrolone per mg (not much though). Only downside is pinning minimum E3D but you can split those with your Test E shots aswell. I'd rethink the deca part, this cycle you have laid out will bloat you the fuck up otherwise.

Posted by: @nby

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NPP fucking overshadows deca imo. No bloat, faster reaction and more actual nandrolone per mg (not much though). Only downside is pinning minimum E3D but you can split those with your Test E shots aswell. I'd rethink the deca part, this cycle you have laid out will bloat you the fuck up otherwise.

From my experience, I am not one to hold a lot of water any way. Dbol doesn't even blow me up really, obviously with the diet I design. So I am curious to see how I react to the deca. Depending on my results will determine how much more I venture into nandrolones.

I'm running deca test right now w anadrol u can look at my pics there is no bloat... I'd say around 11% bf dial in your diet... I like deca because it helps my joints and allows me to go heavier...to each his own but bloat is something u can easily control

Just remember to take an aromasin 12.5mg or formeron ever few days when on that cycle.

In any case though, I think 20lbs of pure muscle while dropping bodyfat (especially at your weight, bodyfat and after 6 years training) is a little unrealistic. Don't really count on more than 10.

I like the first cycle (with dbol) the most, but I'd run the deca longer.