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Size n strength are two different things. I don't have a muscular chest but just bc I don't doesn't effect my strength. 215 is a weak bench. Especially if other lifts are that much higher..

Size n strength are two different things. I don't have a muscular chest but just bc I don't doesn't effect my strength. 215 is a weak bench. Especially if other lifts are that much higher..
Hence why I called 215 a weak bench and the entire point of this topic was to shift away from strength and more towards mass. Sorry bro, but this was a decently unconstructive post.

for chest i'm thinking: add another set to ur flat benching ( try rotating in incline and decline every other month or so)
- add another set of flyes
- 3 x 8-10 db bench ( incline db's if your doing flat bb bench / flat db's if you're doing incline bb bench )

back/bicep day:
- biceps after ur back work is done & throw in 2-3 sets of hammer curls after bb curls

legs:
- is that 3 total sets including warm-ups? i'd like to see a 4th set to 8 reps with about 10-15% less weight than ur last set

shoulders:
- 3-4 sets of lateral raises after ur 1st exercise
- 3 sets 10-12 of tricep pushdowns as last tricep exercise

No I think you're full of shit about how much you can lift! You say you can squat and deadlift over 400 pounds yet you can only bench 215.. what I said was I don't have a very defined chest at all, but that doesn't stop your strength from increasing. 215 seems to me like you skip your upper body a lot if you're doing over 400 on your legs. It takes more than just your chest muscles to bench. Smartass!

No I think you're full of shit about how much you can lift! You say you can squat and deadlift over 400 pounds yet you can only bench 215.. what I said was I don't have a very defined chest at all, but that doesn't stop your strength from increasing. 215 seems to me like you skip your upper body a lot if you're doing over 400 on your legs. It takes more than just your chest muscles to bench. Smartass!

There are several guys on my ski team that fit this bill.

Console - If that is your workout routine, then my only advice is "eat more".

for chest i'm thinking: add another set to ur flat benching ( try rotating in incline and decline every other month or so)
- add another set of flyes
- 3 x 8-10 db bench ( incline db's if your doing flat bb bench / flat db's if you're doing incline bb bench )

back/bicep day:
- biceps after ur back work is done & throw in 2-3 sets of hammer curls after bb curls

legs:
- is that 3 total sets including warm-ups? i'd like to see a 4th set to 8 reps with about 10-15% less weight than ur last set

shoulders:
- 3-4 sets of lateral raises after ur 1st exercise
- 3 sets 10-12 of tricep pushdowns as last tricep exercise
As far as rotating between incline/decline, I've read a few studies that decline doesn't target anything harder than the flat bench (And even incline is only slightly better at hitting your pec's). Definitely will be adding more sets to chest/back/biceps though, sounds solid. Also, with legs, the 3 sets doesn't include warmups (that would be a weak ass leg workout lol). I'll also look into the shoulder/tricep additions, but I was mainly trying to use the skullcrushers as a finisher since they seem to hit my triceps the hardest. Still gonna give it a shot.

No I think you're full of shit about how much you can lift! You say you can squat and deadlift over 400 pounds yet you can only bench 215.. what I said was I don't have a very defined chest at all, but that doesn't stop your strength from increasing. 215 seems to me like you skip your upper body a lot if you're doing over 400 on your legs. It takes more than just your chest muscles to bench. Smartass!
Well, for one, this is the internet, so I'm afraid I don't actually care what you have to say about my numbers. I started a thread to ask for advice in training for aestheticism/mass, not a burn thread or an argument thread or a numbers comparison thread. Your comment was not only completely unneeded, but you probably completely misread my post because I never linked my undefined chest to a weak bench, nor did I even say my chest was undefined in specific or that I was trying to get stronger. My entire body is undefined and I'm looking to change that, that's why I made this topic. I really don't want to start beef with people, so please understand why I'm going to ignore any further remarks.

Also, lol @ you giving me negative reputation. Just a reminder that I made this thread asking for help, and you did the opposite and even got upset because of it.

Console - If that is your workout routine, then my only advice is "eat more".
Definitely. Hitting around ~3200-3400+ calories a day when I start injecting. I've been mostly on maintenance lately.

I didn't come in being a dick.. and I think its funny that you think im mad lol once again, read my original comment. All I said was that it doesn't matter if you're a hard gainer in a certain spot. That factor will not dictate your strength. I have areas, such as my chest, that's really difficult to get any results at all. My strength is consistent with the other areas of my body tho. ALSO, there are other muscles that assist in a lift like bench, like tricepts!!

Now, don't be a smartass or pissy at me when YOUR OP didn't make sense. Nothing about it sounds right! You've been training for years and you're a "POWER LIFTER" yet you only bench 215. Its not my fault that you're making yourself look ignorant. I simply made a statement in my original post. Nothing else!

And don't cry when you get neggged! Read through every post or thread I've ever made on here or IMF. I NEVER say anything to be an ass or disrespectful. YOU made an ass hole comment to me, so you were negged.

Good luck with your bench 🙂

I didn't come in being a dick.. and I think its funny that you think im mad lol once again, read my original comment. All I said was that it doesn't matter if you're a hard gainer in a certain spot. That factor will not dictate your strength. I have areas, such as my chest, that's really difficult to get any results at all. My strength is consistent with the other areas of my body tho. ALSO, there are other muscles that assist in a lift like bench, like tricepts!!

Now, don't be a smartass or pissy at me when YOUR OP didn't make sense. Nothing about it sounds right! You've been training for years and you're a "POWER LIFTER" yet you only bench 215. Its not my fault that you're making yourself look ignorant. I simply made a statement in my original post. Nothing else!

And don't cry when you get neggged! Read through every post or thread I've ever made on here or IMF. I NEVER say anything to be an ass or disrespectful. YOU made an ass hole comment to me, so you were negged.

Good luck with your bench 🙂
Oh lord...you still don't get that I'm not saying my bench is weak because I'm unaesthetic...and you actually said I called myself a powerlifter (training like someone and being someone are two different things, I even said I don't compete)...just stop please...I really do think you're completely misreading everything in this topic or at least completely missed the point of my first post, and you're definitely coming off like an ass in these posts.

take note of ur overall caloric intake of the day - prob start logging it on sumthing like myfitnesspal - try increasing daily cal's by like 500 at least

take note of ur overall caloric intake of the day - prob start logging it on sumthing like myfitnesspal - try increasing daily cal's by like 500 at least
I do when I'm putting on weight (which I plan on doing very soon), calories isn't the main issue right now. Just looking to transition routines from SL5x5's and 5/3/1's (Only routines I've really used besides a shitty ABxABx split I used to do) to something more aesthetic/bodybuilding oriented.

Hitting around ~3200-3400+ calories a day when I start injecting. I've been mostly on maintenance lately.

Do you mean that 3200-3400 is your maintenance, or that's what you take for bulking after beginning your cycle? Just curious, what's your height/bf and how did you calculate the calorie target?